Ellis Short - the worst thing to happen to SAFC in a near 140 year history


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@Sweeper - simple and genuinely asked question... (whether the answer is given, or is honest, is up to you).

Is your position in this debate affected by some kind of influence - financial or otherwise - from SAFC or Ellis Short?
 
Well he's had less to spend and he's not been here as long but relatively speaking he's shite also. Wait til N dong goes for two packs of scampi flavoured fries.

His two managerial appointments, prior to Coleman also have a combined record of 6 wins in 54 league games for us, I believe.
 
@Sweeper - simple and genuinely asked question... (whether the answer is given, or is honest, is up to you).

Is your position in this debate affected by some kind of influence - financial or otherwise - from SAFC or Ellis Short?

No. It’s affected by common sense. Although I appreciate that in the alternate reality of the SMB post-defeat, this might not be the time and place for it.
 
Wonder what interest we will have paid back on that? Maybe the ground rent on Shorts hotel could go towards it?
Wait til he sells the ground to himself on the cheap (under another company name) and starts renting it back to us. We would get an instant bonus of 5% of the value back for Coleman to spend on 45 new players. 750k goes a long way when you scour the Bolivian non league
 
No. It’s affected by common sense. Although I appreciate that in the alternate reality of the SMB post-defeat, this might not be the time and place for it.

Where is the common sense in not blaming a bloke for plunging a club/business into levels of debt of Coventry and Leeds combined, before they very nearly went pop?
 
No. It’s affected by common sense. Although I appreciate that in the alternate reality of the SMB post-defeat, this might not be the time and place for it.

I'll accept your answer and I have no way of proving it one way or the other. Thank you for replying..... I hope you'll appreciate that in these modern days, it's not unheard of for a large company or organisation to try and influence sentiment by having people post certain opinions on social media.

As for common-sense, I think you know, as well as I do, that there's no such thing. You might take the facts and interpret them in your way.. I might see exactly the same facts and come out with a completely different interpretation.

I can assure you (on my part) it's not hysteria.... we are in a crisis like I've never before seen at the club. If this isn't a time for hard questions being asked of the man in charge then I don't know when would be.
 
I'll accept your answer and I have no way of proving it one way or the other. Thank you for replying..... I hope you'll appreciate that in these modern days, it's not unheard of for a large company or organisation to try and influence sentiment by having people post certain opinions on social media.

As for common-sense, I think you know, as well as I do, that there's no such thing. You might take the facts and interpret them in your way.. I might see exactly the same facts and come out with a completely different interpretation.

I can assure you (on my part) it's not hysteria.... we are in a crisis like I've never before seen at the club. If this isn't a time for hard questions being asked of the man in charge then I don't know when would be.

And you think the club might have made me sign up to the board in 2005, and make 15000 posts over 13 years, just to make my defence of a future owner that we hadn’t then heard of more convincing when the time came?
 
And you think the club might have made me sign up to the board in 2005, and make 15000 posts over 13 years, just to make my defence of a future owner that we hadn’t then heard of more convincing when the time came?

I've already said that I'd accept your answer at face value... and I didn't do any research on your 'credentials' or post history before asking either. It was a simple question and I believe I've also explained why I asked it. Your position is not one I can really understand or identify with - hence I had to wonder if it was coming from an angle influenced by the club. No offence meant - just a question being asked of another poster.
 
When the alleged German consortium were trying to purchase the club.

Since that statement, would you say your actions and that of MR BAIN have been in the best interests of SAFC?

We wasted 19 games of the season by employing a manager, who game on game, did absolutely nothing to change the outcome.

You then got a manager in Mr Coleman, which was a minor miracle for which you deserve credit.

However, can you not see what is happening? Is this in the best interest of SAFC, to have a half empty stadium and a team consisting of youth team products and being used by other clubs, to give their kids a game?

In what universe is that "in the best interests of Sunderland?"

This is a disgrace and you appear to not care one iota for the "best interests of Sunderland
 
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