Ellis not happy about FA/Sam affair


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If Pardew cost 2.5M to Palace long contract versus shorter contract 2M & BSA wanted to go for the England job is reasonable compensation

How about koeman going to everton. He was in the last year of his contract and went for £5m. Every case is different but if the club didn't want him to go then they should hold out for a fair settlement. £2m would be a slap in the face imo
 
You missed out the part where it says Sam wasn't happy that Ellis only gave him 50% of what he wanted to spend. Maybe if had given him it all then we wouldn't be in this situation

Don't be so daft man. The minute the FA came Allardyce was always going to walk, the England job has been the one job he truly wanted.

And besides 50% of what he wanted may be the maximum we can afford or a pitiful amount - no one actually knows or even if it's true.
 
I can see why Ellis is angry as the owner of a club in debt, possibly looking at another relegation struggle and like most Prem club owners isn't interested in the England team.

Us supporters can be little more philosphyical about it.
 
The 50% of transfer funds line will be direct for Allardyce, a nice follow up to his "patience wearing thin" on transfers quote.

He's making sure he maintains a good reputation in the media... once they decide its time to ruin him if he doesn't succeed as England boss "walked out on SAFC in the middle of preseason" would be a great stick to hit him with.
 
I wonder who leaked the 50% less than expected transfer budget part?



We could have offered him a blank cheque and he still would have left.

I suspect it's been leaked to point some blame back at the club and away from Sam/The FA, not that I blame Sam at all, the FA need to get this sorted ASAP.
 
He should of done what I would of done and said look he's 3 million quid and that goes up 1 million every day you fuck us around
 
How about koeman going to everton. He was in the last year of his contract and went for £5m. Every case is different but if the club didn't want him to go then they should hold out for a fair settlement. £2m would be a slap in the face imo
Agree make them pay Ellis Short make them pay

We come out with more FA Compensation we will just be fined more by the FA...Cannot win here Ellis what comes around goes around
 
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I suspect it's been leaked to point some blame back at the club and away from Sam/The FA, not that I blame Sam at all, the FA need to get this sorted ASAP.
Oh no you're quite right.
Whatever you do make it absolutely clear you attach no blame to Sam Allerdyce. Even the slightest hint of that would be unforgivable with him being a Sunderland God.
 
Oh no you're quite right.
Whatever you do make it absolutely clear you attach no blame to Sam Allerdyce. Even the slightest hint of that would be unforgivable with him being a Sunderland God.

I wouldn't go that far but I certainly don't blame him for wanting the England job, I do think he'll regret it though when he thinks about what he could have achieved here.

Granted he probably wouldn't win much here but he could certainly have reached iconic status if he'd stayed I think.
 
I'm not so charitable as you I'm afraid.

Sam would have sat it out forever without caring about any harm to our club.

To him it was just collateral damage and a trifle compared to his ambition.

Karma will take a hand when the London press finally hound him out with a character assassination of record proportions
 
Nobody knows outside the club our transfer budget and to say Allerdyce only got 50% of what he asked for is pure speculation.

Nobody on this board or in the papers will know anything about it either.
 
There's more of a rush for us than the FA.

Every day it drags on is another day we've been rudderless and unable to properly prepare for the season.

I think that's more harmful than an extra couple of hundred grand compensation is beneficial.
 
The extra 0.5M means nothing for the FA (rich) but is important for us (poor). Short knows this. Most likely he will get it.

Theyve not got a pot to piss in man.
They had to buy their way out of their new swanky Soho Sq office because they couldnt afford the rent. Their staff now use the hospitality resaurants at Wembley as open plan offices. Pricate offices are the "luxury boxes" that sponsors pay for!. Theres a lot of working from home on midweek match days:lol:. Theyve been begging Spurs n Chelsea to rent Wembley while they have their new grounds built. Spurs for one year then Chelsea for three.
 
He's going to have to promise the next manager funds, maybe that's why he's angry;)

That may be part of it... if he did tell sam that spunking in the january window would mean a smaller budget come summer (if that is even to be believed)

Either way, I can't imagine our current transfer budget is anything more than meager given our financials and the tv money not flush until end of season.

The good news is we have gotten some shite on high wages off the books... need to do more of that.
 
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Don't be so daft man. The minute the FA came Allardyce was always going to walk, the England job has been the one job he truly wanted.

And besides 50% of what he wanted may be the maximum we can afford or a pitiful amount - no one actually knows or even if it's true.

Nah its true, ellis released a statement and circulated it to all top flight clubs (not newcastle) informing them of our exact budget for buying this summer. He definately done this
 
I consider myself an England fan and i will continue to be but the FA can go and get fucked after this,we play Man City in 3 weeks and we've no manager,no signings and what was looking like a promising season has taken a massive blow,i don't begrudge Sam one bit but i'm gutted to see him go i honestly think if he'd added Sakho and possibly Yedlin or Micah Richards (who i think he'd have got playing well again) we'd have had a decent season,totally with Ellis on this,fuck the FA and screw them for every penny i've never known owt like it in my life.
 
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