Donald’s biggest mistakes


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I don’t think rewards would be financial. The achievement would be immense though, especially for a Sunderland fan!


Typical PR fucker, believed his own hype and that he could sell it to us!

Get the club for next to nowt, which may happen with FPP, get to the Prem and it’s valued at 250m, sounds canny to me, even if they spend 200m getting us there.

What can possibly go wrong. We are SAFC man 😂
 
Get the club for next to nowt, which may happen with FPP, get to the Prem and it’s valued at 250m, sounds canny to me, even if they spend 200m getting us there.

What can possibly go wrong. We are SAFC man 😂

Jobs a good un!

But you’ve answered your own question...we are SAFC! Nowt comes easy!
 
"The Maja Situation". It's probably the only thing I feel sorry for Donald. As soon as Maja started doing alright him and his agent did all they could to force a move away. The damage had already been done by Bain/Short etc by letting his contract run down
 
"The Maja Situation". It's probably the only thing I feel sorry for Donald. As soon as Maja started doing alright him and his agent did all they could to force a move away. The damage had already been done by Bain/Short etc by letting his contract run down

Or a sale and a loan back, especially as the Bordeaux gaffer said he wasn’t bought for the first team at the time!

Would have appeased all. A win win. Not a 1-1, 1-1.
 
Or a sale and a loan back, especially as the Bordeaux gaffer said he wasn’t bought for the first team at the time!

Would have appeased all. A win win. Not a 1-1, 1-1.
I think it was all tied in with the Khazri deal Allardyce and his agent mate did as well though wasn't it?
 
Posted on another thread but in case you missed it - recent post on our site (oxford) talking about stuart

I’ve always found north East fans bizarre. They really do have an insupportable superiority complex that makes them believe you’re privileged to meet them.

This lot have clumsily tumbled down to our level, like many other sides before with slightly above average support like Portsmouth, Blackburn, Man City, and seemingly want us to all be in awe. They are no different except for the sheer levels of delta between reality and expectation. That article is completely devoid of the actual reasons for their anger , just more emotive nonsense about some romanticized ideal of who they claim to be. So what are these awful crimes the owner has committed. He’s had about 18 months to turn around years of engrained failure embedded into the seeds of their dna. Do they understand what it takes to turn a business around? Methven, for all his ills, may be right about the lack of corporate education up there.

1. Stadium sold off?
2. Name and colors changed?
3. Asset stripped?
4. HMRC payments missed?
5. Failure to buy players? (Griggs must be a record at this level and shows huge commitment given debts and operating losses at this level)

They’re actually showing huge ignorance as to the operating costs at this level relative to the lack of tv revenue and commercial revenue. They built this pitiful lower league existence by being part of the premiership money gravy train for so long, suckling on the teet of sky TVs money and ignoring the plight of the lower leagues. Now they reap their reward. Welcome to the other side of the fence you gravy train muppets. Deal with it or change it if you ever rise from league one, which no doubt they will eventually.

What they really need to learn is a dose of humility and recognition of where they are. The article states that those outside the region won’t understand. Another statement laced in self importance and the equivalent of Christians argument of “the greatest trick the devil pulled was making you think he doesn’t exist”. Impossible to disprove but substantiates nothing. We are perfectly capable of recognizing what we see.

In reality their first season they got to a play off final. Good season. They can look to their own impatience for the demise of their reasonably decent last manager and so called current plight where they are still well within touching distance of the play offs and only half the season gone. How many teams get relegated and bounce back first time?

Given they’ve won f**k all in decades then perhaps they should just enjoy a new league with new stadiums to visit and more real opposition fan base to engage with rather than the plastics of higher leagues.Rather than creating a toxicity, forcing a relatively decent guy out as owner, and ending up with a genuine devil in charge that the likes of Blackpool and Charlton could reference for them
No disrespect but less than 4 year ago we were beating Chelsea and man united. We’re probably 15 times bigger than oxford. Many of our fans ‘ did enjoy a new league’ last season as we took over places like blackpool on NYD and please see footage of our support at Doncaster only yesterday ( yes amazing). Without sounding arrogant we’re not a little club who takes a mini bus full of fans to every away game. We are a MASSIVE club and we shouldn’t be in this league. Our stadium, fans and academy are premier league class and that is where we deserve to be as fans. If Stewart Donald isn’t capable of getting us there or at least back to the championship he shouldn’t be here. PS Do you remember when we put 7 past you at the stadium of light?
 
Hiring all his old pals who where not satisfactory to do their jobs.

Ran down the academy to the bare bones. Surely we should have enough talent to make a impact in league one.

No plans for recruitment, poor judgement in players.
Players? You Mean A manager.
Posted on another thread but in case you missed it - recent post on our site (oxford) talking about stuart

I’ve always found north East fans bizarre. They really do have an insupportable superiority complex that makes them believe you’re privileged to meet them.

This lot have clumsily tumbled down to our level, like many other sides before with slightly above average support like Portsmouth, Blackburn, Man City, and seemingly want us to all be in awe. They are no different except for the sheer levels of delta between reality and expectation. That article is completely devoid of the actual reasons for their anger , just more emotive nonsense about some romanticized ideal of who they claim to be. So what are these awful crimes the owner has committed. He’s had about 18 months to turn around years of engrained failure embedded into the seeds of their dna. Do they understand what it takes to turn a business around? Methven, for all his ills, may be right about the lack of corporate education up there.

1. Stadium sold off?
2. Name and colors changed?
3. Asset stripped?
4. HMRC payments missed?
5. Failure to buy players? (Griggs must be a record at this level and shows huge commitment given debts and operating losses at this level)

They’re actually showing huge ignorance as to the operating costs at this level relative to the lack of tv revenue and commercial revenue. They built this pitiful lower league existence by being part of the premiership money gravy train for so long, suckling on the teet of sky TVs money and ignoring the plight of the lower leagues. Now they reap their reward. Welcome to the other side of the fence you gravy train muppets. Deal with it or change it if you ever rise from league one, which no doubt they will eventually.

What they really need to learn is a dose of humility and recognition of where they are. The article states that those outside the region won’t understand. Another statement laced in self importance and the equivalent of Christians argument of “the greatest trick the devil pulled was making you think he doesn’t exist”. Impossible to disprove but substantiates nothing. We are perfectly capable of recognizing what we see.

In reality their first season they got to a play off final. Good season. They can look to their own impatience for the demise of their reasonably decent last manager and so called current plight where they are still well within touching distance of the play offs and only half the season gone. How many teams get relegated and bounce back first time?

Given they’ve won f**k all in decades then perhaps they should just enjoy a new league with new stadiums to visit and more real opposition fan base to engage with rather than the plastics of higher leagues.Rather than creating a toxicity, forcing a relatively decent guy out as owner, and ending up with a genuine devil in charge that the likes of Blackpool and Charlton could reference for them
You need to find the middle ground of our fan base. To think tho that we should be ok being in league 1 is crazy. Even before the prem we were a big club. This is the lowest the club has EVER been.
 
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believed he was too clever for us northerners.

I have always tried to restrain from personal insults, but thought CM was patronising and I never liked him.

Despite what others said, I never thought he was any good at PR. Did not mind SD, thought he had good intentions and wanted to make a go of it, but ultimately failed.

For me, towards the end, of was the lack of structure at the club that got the alarm bells ringing!
 
I have always tried to restrain from personal insults, but thought CM was patronising and I never liked him.

Despite what others said, I never thought he was any good at PR. Did not mind SD, thought he had good intentions and wanted to make a go of it, but ultimately failed.

For me, towards the end, of was the lack of structure at the club that got the alarm bells ringing!

House of cards.
 
Posted on another thread but in case you missed it - recent post on our site (oxford) talking about stuart

I’ve always found north East fans bizarre. They really do have an insupportable superiority complex that makes them believe you’re privileged to meet them.

This lot have clumsily tumbled down to our level, like many other sides before with slightly above average support like Portsmouth, Blackburn, Man City, and seemingly want us to all be in awe. They are no different except for the sheer levels of delta between reality and expectation. That article is completely devoid of the actual reasons for their anger , just more emotive nonsense about some romanticized ideal of who they claim to be. So what are these awful crimes the owner has committed. He’s had about 18 months to turn around years of engrained failure embedded into the seeds of their dna. Do they understand what it takes to turn a business around? Methven, for all his ills, may be right about the lack of corporate education up there.

1. Stadium sold off?
2. Name and colors changed?
3. Asset stripped?
4. HMRC payments missed?
5. Failure to buy players? (Griggs must be a record at this level and shows huge commitment given debts and operating losses at this level)

They’re actually showing huge ignorance as to the operating costs at this level relative to the lack of tv revenue and commercial revenue. They built this pitiful lower league existence by being part of the premiership money gravy train for so long, suckling on the teet of sky TVs money and ignoring the plight of the lower leagues. Now they reap their reward. Welcome to the other side of the fence you gravy train muppets. Deal with it or change it if you ever rise from league one, which no doubt they will eventually.

What they really need to learn is a dose of humility and recognition of where they are. The article states that those outside the region won’t understand. Another statement laced in self importance and the equivalent of Christians argument of “the greatest trick the devil pulled was making you think he doesn’t exist”. Impossible to disprove but substantiates nothing. We are perfectly capable of recognizing what we see.

In reality their first season they got to a play off final. Good season. They can look to their own impatience for the demise of their reasonably decent last manager and so called current plight where they are still well within touching distance of the play offs and only half the season gone. How many teams get relegated and bounce back first time?

Given they’ve won f**k all in decades then perhaps they should just enjoy a new league with new stadiums to visit and more real opposition fan base to engage with rather than the plastics of higher leagues.Rather than creating a toxicity, forcing a relatively decent guy out as owner, and ending up with a genuine devil in charge that the likes of Blackpool and Charlton could reference for them

Cheers Charlie lad...!
 
1. Initial press conference. Saying that he and his partners had given Short £40m for the club when they hadn’t
2. Stating that we had a budget that even some Championship clubs couldn’t compete with
3. Over-emphasising the interest that Juan Sartori had in the club
4. The handling of the Maja situation
5. Stating that we didn’t need to offload our top earners and they offloading them all
6. Setting the 100 points target for Ross whilst providing no funds to improve the side be able to do it
7. The handling of the takeover(s). Feeding stories to the fanzines and press and then doubling down when they fell through
8. Appointing Phil Parkinson

There are other mistakes. But they’re the major ones for me
 
His biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place. He should’ve realised he was way out of his depth.
I can’t blame him for that, he seen an opportunity to make big money, something most of us would have done also if in that position.
 
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