Doesnt mince his words our Sam


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Probably our most creative player. I don't really give too much of a sh*t if he tracks back enough. Why should that really be his job anyway? Just get him on there terrifying defences and let the defence and defensive midfielders do the job they're being overpaid for, instead wanting to go marauding up the pitch. Lens can be the difference between staying in this division or not. We simply don't have another player like him.

He's not getting game time because of lack of effort and yet Rodwell has been brought on when we're chasing the game! Whilst I do have faith in Sam, that's just b*llocks that, like.

If you think a player of Lens type quality terrifies PL defences then youve not been watching other clubs defensive recruitment for the last 20yrs. lens plays for SAFC man means hes a cheapish ten a penny winger type from the continent. The reason he wasnt snapped up by a leading club in the PL is BECAUSE he both doesnt terrify PL defences and is lazy with it.
 
The best players do graft though.
The Barca team of recent years, Shankly & Paisleys scousers, Kendalls reidy era lot, Fergies 'class of 92", Beckenbaur/Muller/Breitner era Bayern & Germany, germany in the last WC, Steins "Lisbon Lions", Revies Leeds, Sacchi & Capellos Milan, early 70s Ajax & Holland etc etc etc etc even Stokoes 73 team & primetime Reidy at SAFC did anarl. The best teams ally craft with graft.
If theyve no craft then graft will have to suffice but the graft has to come first otherwise their just playing at it instead of working at it.

Same in every job? If you don't put in a proper shift you won't get results. Good to see this from Sam. Hope undimmed that's me.
 
I said on here a couple of weeks ago that I didn't think I'd ever see a worse game than that Monday night game against Stoke under Bruce but Christ that ran it close.
Aye that was a shocker. Live on Setanta. Whitehead should have been sent off for elbowing Cattermole.

The massive chinned bellskin
 
I am not sure maths is his strong point however. By definition half of players are going to be below average. It's rather like school performance where minister come out with fatuous phrases about wanting all schools to be above average.
It's not wrong to demand average premier league standards of every player at Sunderland. I'm in. We want to raise standards and having everyone reach average premiership standard is a minimum requirement. Your point is wrong.
 
F*ck that. We might as well bring Buckley, bridcutt and Graham back in then. Work hard as f*ck them lads... Doesn't matter that they're not up to the job. They'll come off tired and that's all that counts, innit?

Whilst we're making the likes of Collins, Bardsley and Nosworthy player of the year because they try hard, we're all but f*cked.

Actually, didn't Kenwyn win it once? That twat's even lazier than Lens.

I wouldve thought it was obvious that craft and graft arent mutually exclusive?
Sam wants people who can play and work hard. It should be easier to get Lens to graft than teach Bridcutt & Graham how to cut it Neymar style.
Bridcutt & Graham have ended up at a crap PL team BECAUSE they graft, its their graft thats lifted them above a pay grade their skills would naturally get them, Lens has similarly washed up here because his hard work levels prevent him from playing where his skills couldve taken him.
As Paul Simon once sang: "One mans ceiling is another mans floor".

Because defending starts at the front. In their heyday, Liverpool were renowned for defending from the front and they were a top team. We do not have the luxury of having players saunter around the halfway line whilst we are under the cost (take note, Wesley Brown)

Ive heard both Hansen & Lawrenson say the best defender they ever played with was Ian Rush.
 
I can remember when we had graft and no flair. Recently its been no graft and no flair.
I prefer the former but also believe that if you dont graft flair is pointless.

I cant imagine any team working harder than "primetime Reidys SAFC". They had a lot of graft and a bit of flair and it took us as far as any SAFC team has gone for 60yrs.

It's not wrong to demand average premier league standards of every player at Sunderland. I'm in. We want to raise standards and having everyone reach average premiership standard is a minimum requirement. Your point is wrong.

I dont think MM was aware that BSA has the stats for every player in the Pl not just SAFCs.
 
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For a small period of time Poyet had us playing some good stuff tbf.

As did MON when he took over

Almost as if there's some kind of repeating pattern which involves the reaction to a new manager rather than any influence he might have.
 
Poyet's was 6-7 month after he took over so that knocks your ridiculous theory on the head.
Carry on.

Was that when there were Cup Final places at stake or when relegation wage cuts were looming?
 
Aah so it wasn't a new manager bounce?

We know there are only certain times the players are willing to soldier. New manager and relegation looming are two of them, sometimes simultaneously. Mind you this time round there's not been much of a bounce thus far which doesn't bode well.
 
We know there are only certain times the players are willing to soldier. New manager and relegation looming are two of them, sometimes simultaneously. Mind you this time round there's not been much of a bounce thus far which doesn't bode well.
It's almost like the constant struggles tell you we aren't that good. Sheesh
 
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