Did we sack Bruce too early?


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From Bruce's point of view it was definitely too early - he was in the middle of his fish supper when Ellis rang him - could have left it a bit later in the evening really
 
Not sure, but in general I think we are a bit trigger happy with firing managers. The next lad will have to given a decent length of time before getting the chop.
 
I think the clue there was in his job title, "manager". They were his players and it was his job to manage them.

You can't always blame a manager if a player wants to move away. Take Bent. If Villa offered him more money, coupled with what Capello said about England a potentially unscrupulous agent I think Bruce wasn't to blame in all that.[DOUBLEPOST=1380211843][/DOUBLEPOST]
Was sick of Bruce by the end like.

Every pre match press conference he would say something like 'we are Sunderland lets be realistic, we aren't going to win this game' whereas e.g pardew was saying how the mags would go to teams and try to win. It was depressing.

Also Bruce was lucky to keep his job as long as he did. When we were 2-0 at home to WBA after about 5 mins and they should have went 3 up the atmosphere was poison!

You've made that up.
 
This.

I was never comfortable with the abuse he received from some of our fans, but it was definitely time for him to go.

The only time I heard him get stick at a match was the day we got us beat at home v Wigan, 2 diabolical mistakes after we were 1-0 up iirc.
 
Bruce has shown his true colours a on numerous occasions most recently on talksport, when asked by Neil Warnock if he enjoyed whats happening at Sunderlad after Di Canio was sacked he replied that he did have a laugh at our expense.
Anyone with any class or respect whatsoever for the club would have not have said that. I can't think of another ex manager of ours who would have said anything remotely similar. The fact is he never have a jot about us as a club, backed up by the fact that years earlier after we had won at Birmgham in a cup match while he was manager all he could talk about for months afterwards in just about every interview he gave was about how lucky Sunderland had been tonbeatbhis team. We didn't sack the oaf a minute too early.

Can you blame him? At the end he was treated like shite by our fans (rightly or wrongly) and was sacked by the board. 2 years later and we look worse off than we did when we sacked him and tbh if I was him (and not a SAFC fan) I would gain a lot of satisfaction from knowing the club are in the shit.
 
He was terrible. He got lucky the club signed Bent and then managed to fuck it up. As I always say, if he'd managed Bent properly it would never have got as bad as it did and he wouldn't have left in that way.

We were a one man team, we finished 10th, which meant nothing to anybody but him, we could easily have been 14th.

There was about a two month period around when we beat Chelsea that we looked good, then that winless run started. People look back and only remember that time, thinking it was always like that.

Speak for yourself!
 
Bruce has shown his true colours a on numerous occasions most recently on talksport, when asked by Neil Warnock if he enjoyed whats happening at Sunderlad after Di Canio was sacked he replied that he did have a laugh at our expense.
Anyone with any class or respect whatsoever for the club would have not have said that. I can't think of another ex manager of ours who would have said anything remotely similar. The fact is he never have a jot about us as a club, backed up by the fact that years earlier after we had won at Birmgham in a cup match while he was manager all he could talk about for months afterwards in just about every interview he gave was about how lucky Sunderland had been tonbeatbhis team. We didn't sack the oaf a minute too early.

Surely that can't be right. Half this messageboard would be in uproar and we'd be on the way to his house with torches and pitchforks.
 
Sacked him too late really, we extended his contract during a good spell, when we didn't need to make a decision, bizarre, by the time he signed it we had started the inevitable blip. So when that set in instead of having 1 year left he had 3 or 4 left. He then started the mess we are now in with the squad / team he assembled. ( well more like picking names out of the hat as long as cheap apart from Wickham ) No doubt Quinny was behind the extension but will never understand the reasoning.
 
He didn't do a bad job in fairness, brought in some good players, but it was his attitude whiuh was so poor towards the end. The whole pity me bullshit. Not just telling the fans that they should be happy with their lot so to speak but also all the injury excuses blah blah. And his whiny face as though the world was conspiring against him when in fact he was a fat, whiney man making millions a year .

Maybe we will never rise to the top elchelon in English football again but we sure as shit don't need our manager to tell us that.
 
Not a rhetorical question, I honestly cannot remember

I know we were having bad runs, but were we at extreme relegation risk?

Would he have been sacked if MON wasn't around?

Yes we were and yes it was the right decision. However, he was on a hiding to nothing after being forced to sell both Bent and Gyan.
 
I think that purely on football it was the right time. We looked like we'd given him a fair crack of the whip, and that was reflected in who we were able to attract (most of us thought it was a real coup at the time). Compare with now as we survey a horrifying list of has beens and never will be's.

Silly decision to give him a new contract, and once both Bent and Gyan fucked us over we were in bother. Follow it up with a transfer window that looked sensible enough if not spectacular to most at the time but went badly wrong as he retreated into his shell tactically, it became inevitable. He went on the defensive both on and off the pitch when there was no need to.
 
He was arguably the most unlucky, as the game that Wigan beat us (leading to his demise) we should have won by country mile.

Out of the 3 he was clearly the best, but his time was up on Wearside as we were on the retreat.

Fair play to him in what he's achieved since.
 
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