Did Peter Reid get it wrong after 1999 promotion..


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Reid was better suited to finding unknown gems or waifs and strays that had lost their way, when we needed to shop at harrods and sign proven quality, he fluffed his lines.

The attempts at replacing Quinn were disasterous, we needed a Koller but we got lislandes, Flo etc.
 
Quinn was instrumental and when he began to fade we didn't replace him or change our style. Losing Hutchison was also a blow that third season and he wasn't replaced.

I reckon whatever we had done though, Sunderland being Sunderland we'd have reverted to being a struggling side sooner rather than later. We've never been a consistent top half side in the top flight since when? The 50s?
I’ve always said we stopped being a big club with the first ever relegation in 1958 it’s as though to this day the club never recovered.
Prior to that we were one of the elite, only Aston Villa had won more league titles.
 
I’ve always said we stopped being a big club with the first ever relegation in 1958 it’s as though to this day the club never recovered.
Prior to that we were one of the elite, only Aston Villa had won more league titles.

Yep and pretty sure in 1958 we were the only club never to have kicked a ball outside of the top flight of English football. Jesus since then we’ve spent more time out of it
 
Not Reid’s fault totally

Just a series of bad decisions that led us to 2 7th places, a warning shot across the bows with a 4th bottom and then relegation.

We will never know the full unexpurgated truth but it was the start of our demise to where we are now.

A well supported average 3rd division club.

It makes me weep.
 
He hit double figures in his second and third season so wouldn’t say his form dropped off a cliff at all, amazing that the team went from being exciting to a busted flush and it’s a surprise one player didn’t do as well, possibly something to do with service?

it’s not about legacy, been done to death on here but he was given the heads up about the swimming pool so it was now or never to do the extension as he wouldn’t have got planning permission once it had been done, I think the new ground and academy were enough for his legacy rather than an extra tier on a stand


He was surprisingly good from the very start
Murray did say about the swimming pool but that must surely be bollocks. They announced the extension in 1999 and work was completed for the start of 00/01 season. The swimming pool wasn't announced until 2007 and opened 2008, there hadn't been any talk of it at all until then. I'm sure it was linked to London 2012 too - we'd been awarded the Olympics so had been given funding for an Olympic sized pool.

Murray was talking bollocks - he wanted to extend as the Mags had been looking at building a stadium in the Town Moor then agreed to extend SJP instead and he wanted to get in first, he used to lap up the 'we'll always have one more seat than Newcastle' crack.
 
Quinn was instrumental and when he began to fade we didn't replace him or change our style. Losing Hutchison was also a blow that third season and he wasn't replaced.

I reckon whatever we had done though, Sunderland being Sunderland we'd have reverted to being a struggling side sooner rather than later. We've never been a consistent top half side in the top flight since when? The 50s?
Some SE based posters were bigging up a young Peter Crouch at the time.
 
Couldn't get the required quality players to sign. Plus the finance wasn't there to over pay and force the deals home. Subsequently we signed players who were not good enough to take us forward and we ended up slipping back over at an alarming rate. Our moments in the sun are always short lived, or always have been in my life time.
nothing has chanced in 22 years. Start looking good, then we replace players with shitter players
Even 20 years ago, we were struggling to get top-quality to come to Sunderland. Nothing has changed.
We've attracted some good players. We just haven't been able to get a few at the same time.

There's something the England set up doesn't like about our club, so that's always a false start for most players.
 
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Should have gave Hutchison billions to play up with Phillips for a few more years.
Aye. Ripped Chelsea a new one at the bridge the only time I saw them play together. I’d waited all my life for a top class safc “strike partnership” then another one seemingly fell into our lap and was just allowed to stroll out of the door. Murray and Reid thought they’d “cracked it”. Arrogance personified.
Rangers fans up here were in hysterics that we paid so much for a completely out of form Flo.
Both Rangers AND Celtic fans were in hysterics in my east London local. “Hello hello hello, you’ll never sell ricksen and Flo” was the jibe when Rangers games were on the telly.
Rangers fans up here were in hysterics that we paid so much for a completely out of form Flo.
Both Rangers AND Celtic fans were in hysterics in my east London local. “Hello hello hello, you’ll never sell ricksen and Flo” was the jibe when Rangers games were on the telly.
 
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Fell out with too many of his better players
Could not find a replacement for Quinn
Didn't invest when we went 2nd in January 2001 (remember no transfer window then)
Too many mediocre signings
7th places were great but both had awful collapses after Xmas
Too many jobs for the boys….
 
Summer of 2001 we lost Hutchison, Makin had already gone and wasn’t replaced, even letting Alex Rae go was a bad move I thought. Quinn was starting to fade but we still played the same and Laslandes barely featured. Even though we didn’t go down I remember 2001/2002 being one of the worst seasons. After two 7th finished it was so deflating and the football was diabolical.
 
Too many players went for buttons, or nothing at all too. For a club that didn't have the funds to compete we were rubbish at cashing in.
Only Bridges & Hutch went for what was real money at the time.

Nowt changes I suppose
 
What he did for our club far outweighs what he didn’t do. He gave us all a great time, remember where we were when he arrived at Roker Park and rolled his sleeve up and shook his fist at the Fulwell End.
We were staring relegation in the face.
He was great for our club.
By far and away the best 4 seasons of football I have ever seen were under Peter Reid. Still look back on those days with glowing memories.
 
The mags will find that out .

Believe me.
The quality of players the Saudis and dafter elements of their support expect to come to Syd James’s don’t even come to the PL. No best in the world type player has ever transferred into the PL in their prime.
Yeah, i think he's got over it since mind, considering what he hooked up with, our Kev, has got very lucky lately.. Brianne Delcourt:eek:
Mind his tv careers taken a dive. Leave yer wife n kids and that’s a chance you take.
 
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Summer of 2001 we lost Hutchison, Makin had already gone and wasn’t replaced, even letting Alex Rae go was a bad move I thought. Quinn was starting to fade but we still played the same and Laslandes barely featured. Even though we didn’t go down I remember 2001/2002 being one of the worst seasons. After two 7th finished it was so deflating and the football was diabolical.
Yep. The year we finished 17th was absolutely atrocious, that should have been a warning that was heeded, and changes made. It wasn't.
 
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