Did Peter Reid get it wrong after 1999 promotion..


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At the time I could understand the Flo signing. He was a canny player even though he was well out of form by that point at Rangers. The problem was Reid expected him to be a direct replacement for Quinn. He was never a target man in the same way, he was better with the ball at his feet.
Exactly. I cannot believe that we would spend so much on a player, when we didn't know he wasn't a target man. Did they even watch him prior to buying him? I remember at the time thinking we must be changing our attacking style. So if I knew, with my limited knowledge, how come they didn't?
 
Didn't know that, surely that would have limited his choice of transfer targets. Seems very dodgey and the f.a. must have thought so as well. If someone could replicate that team Reidy built they could have as many back handers as they wanted gor me. Allerdice as well. Team he built to beat relegation looked to be well on the up for the following season till Moyes fucked us up.
And that if true was the reason we didn’t push on, we limited our pool of players and ended up with sub par when the players he fell out with left
 
Went to a talk in with Makin, Summerbee and Gray years ago and they talked about it.

One of them knew Mel Sykes' mate and arranged a night out in London with them after Arsenal away. They didn't tell Gray but wound him up all week telling him it was a surprise and he was apparently even asking them about it during the match.

We got beat 4-1 and they all went out and got pictured by the paparazzi rolling out of a club. Micky Gray tried it on with her, fell asleep so Makin shagged her instead.

Next morning they were all over the papers. Reid went ballistic but blamed Makin and Summerbee for leading Gray astray. They said that was the beginning of the end for them. They were both dropped and Summerbee was in and out from then on, he was frozen out over the summer and trained with the kids but then recalled at the start of the season when clearly unfit to prove a point. Makin didn't leave for over a year but said that was the first offer that came in and was pushed out the door.
It does seem like a rash, OTT reaction tbh. Fergie would have given them the hairdryer but he would have continued to pick them once it had been dealt with.
Was at a sportsman's dinner where he was speaking a few months back, he said he just couldn't compete financially in order for us to kick on.
He would look at what boro and the mags were paying and was jealous.
Unfortunately Sunderland is not a rich area with loads of cash rich businesses chucking money at the club.

He also said there was nothing he could have done to stop Maradona on that run in 86, so I'm not sure what to believe.
Neither is Middlesbrough.
 
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I remain unsure. He didnt really fuck it up. Was his boyhood team. Reid went about it terribly. Should've played him rather than stick him with the reserves.
He fucked ot up for SAFC , he got stuck in the reserves for a season and fucked himself up .He fucked his career and deprived our fans of his undoubted talent as well. I can understand him wanting yo join his boyhood club but in my eyes he fucked it right up. I was really looking forward to watching him in the premier. Such a good exciting and skillfully winger.
 
He fucked ot up for SAFC , he got stuck in the reserves for a season and fucked himself up .He fucked his career and deprived our fans of his undoubted talent as well. I can understand him wanting yo join his boyhood club but in my eyes he fucked it right up. I was really looking forward to watching him in the premier. Such a good exciting and skillfully winger.
He got put in the reserves for a year by Reid, who was being a complete knacker about the situation. Reid deprived the fans from seeing him in the top flight. He could've played him for the year. Who knows how it might have turned out.
 
I remember being at school on the day we were due to play Man Utd at the SoL (the game Cole literally punched the ball into the air before scoring the only goal - somehow missed by Graham Poll) and arguing with a plastic United fan about how we were going to beat them.

Literally felt like we could beat anyone. I’ve not had that feeling since and doubt I will again.
We could give anyone a game. 52 years I ve followed them, reidy team was the best I ve seen. Obviously the 1973 team were heroes to a man but not the best SAFCteam I ve watched.
He got put in the reserves for a year by Reid, who was being a complete knacker about the situation. Reid deprived the fans from seeing him in the top flight. He could've played him for the year. Who knows how it might have turned out.
I know what you mean he did handle it badly but ready didn't make the first move. Magic wanted a transfer first.
 
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I ve no doubt he would have done well. He was brilliant getting us up. I was gutted he fucked it up for us to go to Rangers .
He came in towards the end of the 96-97 Premier League season, I'm sure if him and Chris Waddle had been signed earlier we wouldn't have gone down. Johnston scored the last (competitive) goal at Poker Park, what a game that was.
I've got no doubt at all he'd have been great in the top flight. That Clark/Johnston thing was a disaster. Bridges wanted away anyway for some reason, but how good would it have been to have kept that promotion team together for at least one season after promotion.
 
We could give anyone a game. 52 years I ve followed them, reidy team was the best I ve seen. Obviously the 1973 team were heroes to a man but not the best SAFCteam I ve watched.

I know what you mean he did handle it badly but ready didn't make the first move. Magic wanted a transfer first.
Can't blame him. Boyhood team comes knocking and likely to win trophies. Should've just played him. Johnston might ve been a success and changed his mind. He was likely going into the season thinking we'd be fodder.
He came in towards the end of the 96-97 Premier League season, I'm sure if him and Chris Waddle had been signed earlier we wouldn't have gone down. Johnston scored the last (competitive) goal at Poker Park, what a game that was.
I've got no doubt at all he'd have been great in the top flight. That Clark/Johnston thing was a disaster. Bridges wanted away anyway for some reason, but how good would it have been to have kept that promotion team together for at least one season after promotion.
Bridges wanted away as he wanted first team football. Sadly we weren't yet in the era of regular player rotation so he was destined to be a bench warmer.
 
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Jury is out on Johnston cutting it in the top flight.
And despite your disagreement once opposition teams pushed further up the pitch against us as the better way to play Quinn and Phillips then Summerbee was too one dimensional and never got the ball far enough up the pitch to be the threat he was at first. irrespective of reasons why he was left out he needed replacing with a different type of player which we eventually did with Hutchison.
 
He came in towards the end of the 96-97 Premier League season, I'm sure if him and Chris Waddle had been signed earlier we wouldn't have gone down. Johnston scored the last (competitive) goal at Poker Park, what a game that was.
I've got no doubt at all he'd have been great in the top flight. That Clark/Johnston thing was a disaster. Bridges wanted away anyway for some reason, but how good would it have been to have kept that promotion team together for at least one season after promotion.
Waddle was brilliant in all the games he played at the back end of that season except the last one at WIMBLEDON. They didn't try in that game, we just didn't have enough to beat them.
 
There were no transfer windows then (other than a March deadline day), so we had ample opportunity to strengthen. We failed to do so (ending up with crap like Nunez instead) which cost him and us.
Aye I mean I did like Reid but he spent a fortune on loads of tosh rather than just a few key additions that would have strengthened.
Fantastic days under his management mind I'm not disputing that, used to love going to the match, thought we could beat anyone on our day.
Now it's the opposite
 
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