Di Canio - I was right to ban ketchup


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Respect peoples opinions of Paolo as a manager but to say he picked those players is unfair.

It was this interview where he said "I have been promised a strong squad - we'll see"
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/...eaks-to-the-media-at-hong-picture-id174149108

I agree with this. But he just couldn't tone it down. The best ones can. Very rarely would they call players out in the press. PDC did it every time some fucker planted a mic in his mush. I remember thinking, right you have them playing for you, you have the results to save us. Just shut up now, but the spurs press conference was the end for him. I agree with most of what he said, but I m not a millionaire footballer who carry make up bags and wear fuck off git big head phones. The dirty knees will go down in folk law. I went to a foundation dinner the following season and up until that I loved him. I left that and both me and my pal looked at each other and said he needs to go. He's f***ing mental

He just needed to tone it down. The lack of "football experience" on the board meant there was no one to have a quiet word with him.
 
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No matter how good or shite you are as a manager, if your Director of Football ignores you and instead brings in players you didn't want or ask for, and players go behind your back crying to the chairman because they can't have brown sauce, there's not a chance in hell you can succeed.

Di Canio has generally taken the whole rap for that summer of shite. About time some players and past and present club officials acknowledged their part in it too.
 
I feel he gets too much criticism for the league start tbh. It was one point from 5 league games, not 6. The first defeat (Fulham at home) was an absolute robbery, we played well and they scored with their only touch in our box all game. Southampton away we were fairly poor but very unlucky not to win with them equalizing late on. Palace away was disappointing but was the kind of game we often lose, we were well in it until the sending off. We gave arsenal a game at home and a loss was hardly unexpected. Then there was West Brom which was shite.

Not saying it was great but West Brom was the only dreadful performance, having helped keep us up the year before I don't think the results warranted such an early sacking.

One point from five games (thought it was six, fair enough) doesn't sound any better by saying we weren't playing shite though, it's still one point from five games. The results weren't going to improve if the players had turned against him.
 
Listen to people employed at the club like Craig Russell about being sacked for smiling too much, about not being allowed in on match days and the lead to it, about staff not being allowed in the canteen when first team players were there and not allowed to make eye contact as it took their focus away from the training/game. He had completely lost the plot. Listen back to his interviews here - he was deranged.

Look as how he was acting, look at his time at Swindon and the farce with Leon Clarke, the Wes Foderingham nonsense, the fact he hasn't been employed since. There's plenty of comments and things out there if you look.

Whats the craick with that mate?
 
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Just generally being himself. My question got pulled out the hat and obviously vetted. Dave Jones read it out. I asked who is the most gifted player at the club? He talked about himself for a few minutes, then mentioned Diakante( yeah wrong spelling) and generally went on like a bloke on whizz. That was pretty much they way he went on after every question. You could see the people in the room looking at each other and just thinking what the fuck. Even Dave jones looked confused about what he was listening to.

No matter how good or shite you are as a manager, if your Director of Football ignores you and instead brings in players you didn't want or ask for, and players go behind your back crying to the chairman because they can't have brown sauce, there's not a chance in hell you can succeed.

Di Canio has generally taken the whole rap for that summer of shite. About time some players and past and present club officials acknowledged their part in it too.
Absolute utter bollocks. The bloke was a f***ing weirdo.
 
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One point from five games (thought it was six, fair enough) doesn't sound any better by saying we weren't playing shite though, it's still one point from five games. The results weren't going to improve if the players had turned against him.
The points are irrelevant if the players weren't playing for him. They effectively went on strike because they didn't like their boss! Put that in a real world perspective and it's laughable, even more so when you're earning tens of thousands a week for playing a game.
 
No matter how good or shite you are as a manager, if your Director of Football ignores you and instead brings in players you didn't want or ask for, and players go behind your back crying to the chairman because they can't have brown sauce, there's not a chance in hell you can succeed.

Di Canio has generally taken the whole rap for that summer of shite. About time some players and past and present club officials acknowledged their part in it too.
He had a squad more than capable of competing in the PL. don't forget that he requested a DoF as a condition of joining the club

Whats the craick with that mate?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wes-foderingham-angry-paolo-di-5998167
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/aug/31/paolo-di-canio-leon-clarke

 
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Whats the craick with that mate?

He had spats with both, both sort of happened on the field initially too, then banned both from the club I think, called Foderingham "the worst professional he'd ever seen" etc etc and made a very public point of getting Clarke out of the club. He seems to do this shit quite often.

The points are irrelevant if the players weren't playing for him. They effectively went on strike because they didn't like their boss! Put that in a real world perspective and it's laughable, even more so when you're earning tens of thousands a week for playing a game.

Absolute nonsense. We were allover tactically from the start of the season but anyone saying the players weren't trying or putting a shift in is talking out of their arse. He'd lost them by the WBA game, but earlier games like Arsenal and Fulham they were certainly buying into playing for him.

No matter how good or shite you are as a manager, if your Director of Football ignores you and instead brings in players you didn't want or ask for, and players go behind your back crying to the chairman because they can't have brown sauce, there's not a chance in hell you can succeed.

Di Canio has generally taken the whole rap for that summer of shite. About time some players and past and present club officials acknowledged their part in it too.

Good point, except for the absolute fact Di Canio can't seem to decide who he did want from the squad and who he didn't.

Di Canio himself has said since he didn't get this and that, but earlier he also said he'd wanted to keep Ji, he wanted Altidore. He then distanced himself from some of the players brought in, only to change his mind and say he wanted Ki and Borini nd they were the only ones he ok'ed when we went on the good cup run and those players were playing well. He's a bullshitting gobshite and the easily led buy into his bullshit.

My opinion is the players had a strict regime with keane then under bruce and o'neill had it a bit more relaxed especially under o'neill who at times wasn't even taking training. Once di canio took over and demanded some professionalism i.e turn up for training on time, not spend nights partying, the players who had a pretty cushy number up until then decided sod that he needs to go and stopped working for him until they got their own way.
There's so much money involved in football, clubs are probably scared of taking a risk after reading what are probably exaggerated stories about him. I honestly think a club like sheff wed should take a gamble on him and back him and they'd reap the rewards.

Some players bought into his methods some didn't - that was well documented at the time. It's even been mentioned by someone who would know that in this very thread. It was more than just training methods ffs and being strict - you don't really believe that bullshit do you? Sam Allardyce came in and when it comes to training and recovery was ahead of the game 10/15 years ago, even now he is doing thing which other managers don't. He embraces many of the same things, even if some of the diet maybe isn't so strict - players tend to love playing for him and he had no problems here, because he knows how to actually manage people. That is the biggest point in this argument. Allardyce wasn't a total f***ing lunatic criticising players publically, making it all about his ego, banishing others from the squad and hitting every problem square on. The problem here is you're still maintaining it was simply down to being strict, as if no one else ever is. One of the key people in going to Byrne was John OShea. A man described by Alex Ferguson as a ideal pro, a model profesional. According to you though he's probably just a bit lazy, nothing to do with the fact as captain he was probably alarmed at how much damage Di Canio was doing.

You're trying to sway away from admitting Di Canio is miles over the top and his time going through 50 odd players and banishing half of them at Swindon shows it. The Swindon chairmen at the time calling it "management by hand grenade" shows it too. People in football talk, if he was so good he'd have had another job on the gravy train of football management. Because even if you've done some stupid things, if you've completely failed in your last job, then if you've done something decent there's always someone who will take that chance. Di Canio is a loose canon though, he causes problems and division and the Swindon chairman, the only man who's employed him who has gone public has even told you so, yet according to you it's just exaggerated stories about him :lol:
 
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Plenty of blame to go around, but as usual we package it all up with a neat little bow and give it all to the departing manager.
There had been rumblings about the players for years before PDC was appointed. The completely obvious switch off under Sbragia after they'd campaigned for him to get the job as they knew it would be an easy life. The holiday camp under MoN, where they responded to being treated like responsible pros by doing as little as they could get away with, and often less than that. Afterwards, Poyet publicly giving in and performances miraculously getting better when there was a chance of personal embarrassment to them.

I'm surprised he didn't go mental earlier tbh, it must have been infuriating. No coincidence the only time we looked half decent consistently was when Allardyce was hitting them over the head with their stats, giving them nowhere to hide.

 
He played 424 against arsenal. Barcelona don't play 424 against Arsenal.

He's an absolute amateur.
This! We went to war with Arsenal playing David Vaughan and Ki in a 2 against Wilshere, Ramsay and Flamini......no coincidence that the spare man got 2 goals!
 
No matter how good or shite you are as a manager, if your Director of Football ignores you and instead brings in players you didn't want or ask for, and players go behind your back crying to the chairman because they can't have brown sauce, there's not a chance in hell you can succeed.

Di Canio has generally taken the whole rap for that summer of shite. About time some players and past and present club officials acknowledged their part in it too.
hiring a spiv/chancer/total cunnt and generally pissing away a small fortune is the safc business model
PDC may not be a good manager, but like it or not we have had some deep rooted cultural issues at the club... which may still be plaguing us now
 
That PDC summer was the last time I had genuine optimism for the club!

We signed loads of players, had a maverick who looked like he was proving his doubters wrong.

Then, well....:lol:

If Altidore's goal at the first home game had stood, I genuinely believe it may have been different all round.

Love PDC, me.
 
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