Desert Island Discs, Morrissey Vs Weller


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Conkered.

Morrissey has released some fantastic solo stuff, especially in the last 8 years or so. On top of that, the Smiths beat the Jam hands down. Stanley Road was one of the most overrated 90s albums around imo.

Agree with this.
 
How's that like? :lol:

Must have similar friends, I have added ya anyway ya little cunt ;)

Morrissey, piece of f***ing piss. His solo stuff is superb where as i can't think of a single Weller (solo) tune i like and the Smiths are loads better than the Jam (don't mind the Jam, like)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKoS5X4SMrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qgn1Rc0YJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvuweztG4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LeL9BUPtA

Mint :cool:

By the way you forgot this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1V27pzCcqw
 
Conkered.

Morrissey has released some fantastic solo stuff, especially in the last 8 years or so. On top of that, the Smiths beat the Jam hands down. Stanley Road was one of the most overrated 90s albums around imo.

Ya see i think Stanley Road is Wellers best solo work, great album that. Morrisseys 1st solo album was shite but the couple after that were class. His latest offerings are fuckin shocking IMO.
 
Ya see i think Stanley Road is Wellers best solo work, great album that. Morrisseys 1st solo album was shite but the couple after that were class. His latest offerings are fuckin shocking IMO.

You think? Years Of Refusal and You Are The Quarry are his best albums for me.
 
His first was his best and the second his worst.

Viva Hate was crap mate. Couple of good tunes on there, but he has said he made up the words for most of the tunes in the studio as they were recording them. Not what you would expect from Mozzer as earlier songs had been built around the lyrics he had already written. Just looked back and yes 2nd album was crap but 3rd and 4th were his best ..again IMO. But nar anything since then has been garbage.

Wellers last two solo Albums were quality...

Again i'm sorry mate but IMO Weller has done nowt special since Stanley Road. Illumination (think thats right?) was the last album i bought by him and i just thought....thats it mate yer have had a good run, say tarrah.
 
Have to say I reckon Wellers best solo album is Heavy Soul.

I would also say that Last Of The Famous International Playboys, Irish Blood, Everyday Is Like Sundays and a good few others are worthy tunes to be on a Smiths best of were he to have done them while with the band.

I don't think Marr wrote much at all while in the Smiths Morrissey has always said the lyrics while in the band were like his diary.

I was always under the impression Marr wrote the tunes while Morrissey wrote the lyrics.

I'm not oracle on the Smiths mind so could be wrong and will happily be corrected
 
I was always under the impression Marr wrote the tunes while Morrissey wrote the lyrics.

I'm not oracle on the Smiths mind so could be wrong and will happily be corrected

that is what I meant Morrissey is a songwriter, Morrissey Vs Marr as a musician is not a subject for the thread title.
 
I was always under the impression Marr wrote the tunes while Morrissey wrote the lyrics.

I'm not oracle on the Smiths mind so could be wrong and will happily be corrected

I'm pretty sure on The Smiths 1st album Marr put the music to the already written Morrissey lyrics.
 
Mr Weller aaaaarrl day long

particularly his jam stuff, and his early SC stuff as well. Smiths were alright but Morrissey by himself does nowt for me
 
Surely song writing is a combination of both lyrics and music though

Not at all, can you not see the difference between writing and being skilled at playing an instrument it really is as different as a painter and a carpenter.

If you want to make a point make it mate.
 
Not at all, can you not see the difference between writing and being skilled at playing an instrument it really is as different as a painter and a carpenter.

If you want to make a point make it mate.

Course I can tell the difference, thread wasnt about playing instruments. My point as you well know is that the Smiths songs wouldnt have been the same without the tunes of Marr so when comparing the song writing exploits of both Weller and Mozza its unfair cos the Smiths songs would have sounded completely different if Mozza had wrote the music

Hence the point I made earlier, Weller has done all it himself where as Morrissey had Marr writing the music for him when in the Smiths

Both superb songwriters for me but for the reasons I have gave above Weller is better imo
 
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