Denver Hume

Called one bloke a mag since been on. Goes on like one.

Having a go at fans ffs. You mean the few who dee nowt but pick through anything the manager says and stating hes a prat for using sports terminology. With a few laughy emojis.

Fans my arse.
But he is a prat. And his record in management is crap.

I support the club. I don't have to buy into the manager's spiel. Have you never been critical of a manager?
 
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Thatheaderman

Midfield
But he is a prat. And his record in management is crap.

I support the club. I don't have to buy into the manager's spiel. Have you never been critical of a manager?
Loads of them. Ones who fucked up or treat the club like shit.

In fact probably only Knighton Smith Reidy and to lesser extent Ross I remember fondly.
 

PTR

Striker
Has he improved in the "3 seasons" since his debut?
Pretty difficult to judge on the form of the last 3-4 games since he's just coming back from a bad injury.
But he's no worse than Mcfaz, and he's a young local lad. I'd say we should support him.

Even if our local lads end up being fringe players, backups, that's absolutely fine. Better that than bringing in backups from elsewhere?
 

Thatheaderman

Midfield
Well there you go then. So why vehemently dismiss fellow fans for being critical of Lee Johnson? After all he's fucked up. Twice. Big style.
He came in at xmas. During Covid with a transfer cap and shit players. Add injured CBs and an ownership issue and contract problems going on behind scenes.

If he does not get us out hes failed and can fuck off. No excuses. But not because he wears a flat cap or is small or uses words nobody relates to.

I'm not into fanciful bollox either . Probably those slating his use of them think Cantonas trawler and seagull analogy was funny. Not me , I thought it was someone just spouting shite to try to come over bright. But I think some are just hoping he fails.

One post I read on another thread said he thinks we will be promoted in spite of LJ. So seems he cant win with that poster. So i will judge him on who comes in and getting out of this f***ing division. That goes for ownership and Speakman as well.

No promotion equals full club fail.
 
He came in at xmas. During Covid with a transfer cap and shit players. Add injured CBs and an ownership issue and contract problems going on behind scenes.

If he does not get us out hes failed and can fuck off. No excuses. But not because he wears a flat cap or is small or uses words nobody relates to.

I'm not into fanciful bollox either . Probably those slating his use of them think Cantonas trawler and seagull analogy was funny. Not me , I thought it was someone just spouting shite to try to come over bright. But I think some are just hoping he fails.

One post I read on another thread said he thinks we will be promoted in spite of LJ. So seems he cant win with that poster. So i will judge him on who comes in and getting out of this f***ing division. That goes for ownership and Speakman as well.

No promotion equals full club fail.
I know the timeline. He ultimately failed. Golden opportunity to claim an automatic spot. Golden opportunity to get to Wembley. Failed.
 
He came in at xmas. During Covid with a transfer cap and shit players. Add injured CBs and an ownership issue and contract problems going on behind scenes.

If he does not get us out hes failed and can fuck off. No excuses. But not because he wears a flat cap or is small or uses words nobody relates to.

I'm not into fanciful bollox either . Probably those slating his use of them think Cantonas trawler and seagull analogy was funny. Not me , I thought it was someone just spouting shite to try to come over bright. But I think some are just hoping he fails.

One post I read on another thread said he thinks we will be promoted in spite of LJ. So seems he cant win with that poster. So i will judge him on who comes in and getting out of this f***ing division. That goes for ownership and Speakman as well.

No promotion equals full club fail.
This is or was a post about Denver Hume, a lad we probably all want to see signed up and go on and improve with us.

it’s the fanciful nonsense that LJ keeps coming out with. I think he was very poor over the last 10 games and do have some sympathy with the squad he inherited. But it is him that keeps repeatedly coming out with snippets and sound bites that he can’t guarantee or even deliver. Had he done the usual manager one game at a time routine during the playoffs he wouldn’t have got half as much stick. But when he publicly states the players will coming flying out the traps or whatever nonsense he said, and then the team underperforms it reduces my confidence in him. He has repeatedly said what we all want to hear. But has repeatedly failed to deliver. As our manager he has my support as does the team but it is now time for him to stop waffling and start to deliver on the playing side. Maybe he is trying to hard, I don’t know. Maybe he is enjoying his lofty position and wants his moment in the limelight. But he needs to jack it in!
 

Useful_Idiot

Central Defender
I actually think the fans have been quite patient with him. He came with a reputation of constantly changing line ups and having long slumps which he didn't know what to do about. The fact that these have been very early is a massive red flag. That run of 10/11 games then the frankly pathetic attempt in the play offs means that fans should be worried. The use of jargon is just a side show. To be honest I saw him as a pundit before we hired him and I thought he came across as a smug, self satisfied prat so I was really not keen on us appointing him.

However, the fans have totally accepted that KLD has backed him and its probably the right thing to do. I have a major worry that he actually isn't very good and we'll waste yet another year down here until we get the right manager/head coach. My first game was 1974 and I've seen many ups and downs and normally not wanted to sack managers - I would have kept O'Neill, Bruce, Poyet even Coleman but for all my life I could conceive of 4 years in the 3rd Division - its an utter disgrace when we the fans have given the club all time record attendances for this level. Therefore, I don't think being in the 3rd Division is a time for patience - we need someone to drag us out of this awful league - someone like Roy Keane, Denis Smith, Peter Reid, Mick McCarthy. Is Johnson that man? I highly doubt it. He did nowt at Bristol City and I doubt he'll see next season out - not because of the fans but because he's not very good and actually hides his weaknesses with his nonsense speak.
I don't disagree with most of what you are saying. We need to get out of this league, and I don't think Johnson is up for it. But it's not really what I think that matters its what KLD thinks and I'm going to trust his judgment as it seems (so far) he is changing things for the better.

I think the ball is in Johsnons court now, it's up to him to deliver what he has been saying.
To be fair people were behind the rhetoric when it was going well. His problem has been that we were woeful last 10 games and he didn’t have an answer. Meanwhile he’s using phrases to sound like he’s some kind of visionary and ahead of the curve. We’re in league one and people can’t be bothered to get their wool pulled over their eyes or to buy into his rubbish, just win some games.
I think if those 10 games were spread out over the course of the good run we had people wouldn't be as upset. Its the fact it all came around in one poor run at the crucial time.

But you are right, if we are winning the funny talk is just that, but it gets on people's nerves when we are losing. Which is just a fact of football. If we were winning under Parkinson nobody would give a shit how boring he is.
 
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Thatheaderman

Midfield
This is or was a post about Denver Hume, a lad we probably all want to see signed up and go on and improve with us.

it’s the fanciful nonsense that LJ keeps coming out with. I think he was very poor over the last 10 games and do have some sympathy with the squad he inherited. But it is him that keeps repeatedly coming out with snippets and sound bites that he can’t guarantee or even deliver. Had he done the usual manager one game at a time routine during the playoffs he wouldn’t have got half as much stick. But when he publicly states the players will coming flying out the traps or whatever nonsense he said, and then the team underperforms it reduces my confidence in him. He has repeatedly said what we all want to hear. But has repeatedly failed to deliver. As our manager he has my support as does the team but it is now time for him to stop waffling and start to deliver on the playing side. Maybe he is trying to hard, I don’t know. Maybe he is enjoying his lofty position and wants his moment in the limelight. But he needs to jack it in!
Think the OP wasnt interested about Denver. More the words.
 
Sounds like Hume isn’t that bothered about coming back. Maybe has an attractive offer elsewhere.

I don’t know how going on like a needy ex on Facebook putting out ‘we are better together’ posts is going to make a difference.
How does it sound like that?

Not having a go here, I’m just interested to see how you’ve come to that conclusion.
 
How does it sound like that?

Not having a go here, I’m just interested to see how you’ve come to that conclusion.
Just a Hunch. I’d have thought that with his injury record he wouldn’t be holding out unless there was something tangible there from someone else for him to take the risk of running his contract out.
 

dangermows

Striker
To be fair people were behind the rhetoric when it was going well. His problem has been that we were woeful last 10 games and he didn’t have an answer. Meanwhile he’s using phrases to sound like he’s some kind of visionary and ahead of the curve. We’re in league one and people can’t be bothered to get their wool pulled over their eyes or to buy into his rubbish, just win some games.
Yup. Our lot are too wise for his gibberish. We tolerate it if we are winning games, nothing more.
But he is a prat. And his record in management is crap.

I support the club. I don't have to buy into the manager's spiel.
Correct. Buying into bullshit is what that lot up the road do.
I know the timeline. He ultimately failed. Golden opportunity to claim an automatic spot. Golden opportunity to get to Wembley. Failed.
The players failed him. All they had to do was bring their USPs and follow his protocols.
 
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