Defoe on Moyes at Sunderland


Status
Not open for further replies.
Come on then, I haven't got half a brain - tell me Moyes' thinking behind it
Well you said it...

Giving Moyes the benefit of the doubt, I think those signings were a case of bringing in players he felt he knew and could trust, to influence the dressing room. Both Pienaar and Lescott were free agents when they signed, and were only on short contracts. They certainly won't have broken the bank.

Again, ya could see what he was trying to do with Oviedo and Gibson, but it turned out to be a bit of a disaster.
All 4 were crap and all 4 were signed by Moyes.

Add in Adnan Januzaj and Donald Love, becuse Paddy McNair was ok, then he made 6 additions to the playing staff which were absolutely no benefit to the team and probably cost us over £100k a week.

The only one who was half decent was Victor Anichebe, but he was injured a lot of the time.

Moyes hoyed the towel in after the Boro game - 2 games into the season.

How can you possibly give him the benefit of doubt ?

He was a disaster and should have been sacked once Allardyce became available
 
Doesn’t surprise me tbh. The players just weren’t good enough. Moyes knew it we all knew it. It was a joke of a club at that point - Short the biggest issue followed by his toothless employees. Recruitment was dreadful and Allardyce just used one shady agent despite him doing well with the players. Moyes should have kept his mouth shut like. We’re in league one I know but look at how well run we are now compared to then, with a pittance of the income.

This completely and utterly untrue

What fuck you on about?
 
Bringing in Gibson, Pienaar and Lescott should’ve been a sacking offence alone.

Add dodgybodgy and ndong to that! Plus Donald love. I mean fuck me it rivals Bruce 2011 as the worst transfer window in history. If Bruce started the slide off then Moyes certainly f***ing finished it with that lot
 
Yeah - that's not the same thing is it.
Why didn't he just resign when he wasn't happy withthe hand he was dealt with.

iirc he left the day after Chelsea 5-1, when he should have been sacked (or had the guts to resign long before Xmas)

To the outside world it looks like he was happy to take the money and offer nothing in exchange, except lining the pockets of players who were once useful to him ..... a kind of reward for service at Everton, but paid for by Sunderland
 
Why didn't he just resign when he wasn't happy withthe hand he was dealt with.

iirc he left the day after Chelsea 5-1, when he should have been sacked (or had the guts to resign long before Xmas)

To the outside world it looks like he was happy to take the money and offer nothing in exchange, except lining the pockets of players who were once useful to him ..... a kind of reward for service at Everton, but paid for by Sunderland
I'm not disputing any of those points.

But as I've said, we were within touching distance of safety at the end of January.
 
This completely and utterly untrue

What fuck you on about?
Do you think the players were good enough? Do you think the recruitment was good and we invested enough in players that summer compared to our rivals? Did Allardyce not focus on recruiting from one shady agent who left when he did ? Were Short's staff doing a good job? Was the club being run well?
Wondering which bits you think are 'completely and utterly untrue' ?
Short loved a scapegoat like to cover his own inadequacies. We had one every season and a half
 
Moyes had a similar attitude when he managed in Spain he refused to integrate or learn the language apparently lived in a hotel he totally lost the dressing room & told the club they were being unrealistic
Wasted millions on players.
 
Last edited:
Regardless of how he is doing now, he was an absolute disgrace here. He threw in the towel.

From day one (sending texts to journalists telling them they were "about to see the worst Premier League team in history and his interview after Boro when he had all but given up after 2 games), to the end of the season with the John Terry antics and everything in between (threatening to slap a female reporter for one) he was utterly abysmal.
Was absolutely gutted and livid in equal measure that we didn't sack him on grounds of gross misconduct after that Vicki Sparks interview. Him, Short and Bain were a f***ing disgrace in that period.
 
I'm not disputing any of those points.

But as I've said, we were within touching distance of safety at the end of January.
Replaced van Aanholt with Oviedo.

Didn't get a replacement for Anichebe

That should have been another prompt for him to quit .....but he took the money and stayed on
 
I for one am absolutely stunned that Jermain Defoe didn't criticise him or say anything remotely negative when asked a question as a football pundit live on TV. Shocked to my very core.

To be honest I read the thread title and hoped it was a bare Knuckle death match
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top