Defending “the club” at every juncture

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Not this shite man.

Look at our wage bill. Wages define what you spend in this league. Not transfer fees. We’re miles behind some very small clubs. Miles behind!!
FFS , you have no clue about wages , stop gannin on like an enraged fanny. The bloke has fucked off for whatever reason , the board are running the club responsibly after the last decade of shitshow management. WE move on and hire a replacement. Fuck AN he's history. He will be reminded of how he has behaved when he brings Stoke up here am sure.
 
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Stoke’s ceiling will always be lower than ours, whatever way he paints it, it’s not the same
It's not the 1900s anymore. We are being ran sustainably, Stoke are backed by billionaires as I understand it. If that is the case there ceiling is currently far higher than ours. Our crowds are bigger that's it.
 
Sick of seeing people defend and refer to “the club” as a collective as if speaking against what happens is being detrimental to or against SAFC as a whole. “The Club” have owners, directors and senior management who are responsible for decision making and funding commitments. When you defend “the club” you defend them. You defend Donald, Sartori, Davison and KLD. That’s defending “the club”.

I’m f***ing pissed off with Neil that he saw fit to drive to Stoke the day before we play but I’m more pissed off with why he made that decision and what drove him to do it.

He wasn't working for us a a volunteer. He would have been on a good whack.

The club is in decent nick despite a lot of biting at them. He has blown a huge chance, and lost a massive amount of goodwill from thousands of fans.

Bye. HTL
 
There are obviously major issues with the way that the club is being ran and I think that Neil's fantastic performance as manager has taken a lot of heat off them but I can't believe that anyone is defending him here. He's shown a complete lack of professionalism and obviously has no respect at all for the lads in the dressing room going off the way he's handled this.
 
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Everything in football is money.

Why has Neil gone - money.

Why has a young man gone from fighting for a Champions league spot and living in San Sebastián to join a mid table club in the mags, money.

In football the only thing people care about is money.
 
He's wanted a loose contract as he seems to do it at every club. Probably as a way to make sure the job js right for him. Everywhere else once he's done well he's signed a long term contract.

He came when the club was a clusterfuck (still is in some ways). We had just sacked a manager for being third in the league, possibly instigated by not wanting Defoe who almost immediately quit the club and had a boardroom lying about owning the club, a demotivated squad and barely a pitch.

Neil had way more to lose by coming here. Predecessor's went from here to SPL and non league. A poisoned chalice with the odds stacked against him.

He didn't have a grand master plan to get a job at Stoke. He's left because he's not happy amd it's the ony way out.

I know it's hard to comprehend other people don't love the club as much as us (there's even a thread now complaining about it) but we aren't the be all and end all but the jilted ex lover denial and revisionism is bewildering.

That still doesn't mean he has gone about it in the right way a month into a season and 24 hours before a game, mind.
Great post.
There's a difference between defending the club and attacking the club.

You can't do either atm as no-one knows what the crack is. It sounds like your classing anyone who isn't attacking the club as the former which is just stupid.
I take your point mate. Of course none of us really know what’s went on. It’s come through the mainstream media that he felt he was not backed and whilst I’m not taking it as gospel I’d be compelled to think that this was the main reason rather than him just f***ing off for the crack or at the first chance with the club (as an entity) being the blameless victim.
Don’t go to games then you Absolute melt
I mean the article in the Athletic this morning literally says it’s both those things. Money for him and money to build the squad.
 
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Great post.

I take your point mate. Of course none of us really know what’s went on. It’s come through the mainstream media that he felt he was not backed and whilst I’m not taking it as gospel I’d be compelled to think that this was the main reason rather than him just f***ing off for the crack or at the first chance with the club (as an entity) being the blameless victim.

I mean the article in the Athletic this morning literally says it’s both those things. Money for him and money to build the squad.
There’s no time for us to point fingers today though, the next manager we get could be better. Got to support the team. Today.
 
Not this shite man.

Look at our wage bill. Wages define what you spend in this league. Not transfer fees. We’re miles behind some very small clubs. Miles behind!!
So you think we should have a wage bill higher than our turnover, like other Championship clubs. You know, the ones now desperately to get their wage bills down to avoid a transfer embargo or points deduction. Like, er, Stoke.
 
There’s no time for us to point fingers today though, the next manager we get could be better. Got to support the team. Today.
Agreed that we should support the team. I’m as pissed off as the next man he went the day before a match. That’s bad crack. The Athletic however have reported just in the last hour though that his motives were financial. For both himself and his available budget and this is exactly what I said last night. We have not backed him sadly.
So you think we should have a wage bill higher than our turnover, like other Championship clubs. You know, the ones now desperately to get their wage bills down to avoid a transfer embargo or points deduction. Like, er, Stoke.
Never once said that have I? I’m pointing out we have a low wage bill compared to other clubs to counter argue against some on here who claim we’re one of the highest spenders. Nothing more, nothing less. Or stating fact - something you believe in!
 
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If you have anything to say negatively towards the club you're a mag, that's one of the reasons why we constantly sleep walk into shite time and again. A sizeable chunk of our club fall under the spell of whichever chancer is running it at the time, letting them off with treating the club as a toy and the fans as mugs
 
Let’s say you get offered a job that brings you back home to the area your family lives in, and for more money?

What ya choosing?
Choosing that job, I am however keeping my old employer sweet and not shafting them before a huge day for their organisation
 
Sick of seeing people defend and refer to “the club” as a collective as if speaking against what happens is being detrimental to or against SAFC as a whole. “The Club” have owners, directors and senior management who are responsible for decision making and funding commitments. When you defend “the club” you defend them. You defend Donald, Sartori, Davison and KLD. That’s defending “the club”.

I’m f***ing pissed off with Neil that he saw fit to drive to Stoke the day before we play but I’m more pissed off with why he made that decision and what drove him to do it.
37k a week mate. I'd have walked there if I'm honest. Was on 350k a year last year when he signed for us, with a rise when we were promoted. Our wage structure can't compete with that.
 
Agreed that we should support the team. I’m as pissed off as the next man he went the day before a match. That’s bad crack. The Athletic however have reported just in the last hour though that his motives were financial. For both himself and his available budget and this is exactly what I said last night. We have not backed him sadly.

Never once said that have I? I’m pointing out we have a low wage bill compared to other clubs to counter argue against some on here who claim we’re one of the highest spenders. Nothing more, nothing less. Or stating fact - something you believe in!
We ended the season with a wage bill determined by the L1/2 SCMP rules. Most players will have had a 30-35% uplift on promotion; that and relegation cuts are more or less standard. And any new players will be on competitive wages. What wouldn't make sense is paying the likes of Dwight Gayle £30k a week.
 
His family is in the north west and has been waiting for a club close to home imo...
Exactly. That’s why the rolling contract and if you believe what you read the reason for not accepting our counter offer. If he had wanted us he would have stayed. He has let us down not “the club”. It’s just easier to blame them because rejection is a bitter pill to swallow.
 
So you think we should have a wage bill higher than our turnover, like other Championship clubs. You know, the ones now desperately to get their wage bills down to avoid a transfer embargo or points deduction. Like, er, Stoke.
Always extremes with you to defend the owners no matter what.
 
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