Defending “the club” at every juncture

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Barnesy and Benno talking sense on the radio here.

The club owed AN a new contract in the summer after successful promotion.

A functional club would have been offering him more more money with longer notice on both sides - to protect our and AN’s position.

Looks like Tony Mowbray will come in as a safe pair of hands - let’s hope the club learn from this.

Im not holding my breath though.
“You’ve got the crown jewels and you’ve left the door open”

Just about sums it up
True Enough, Mowbray of course knowing stewart harvey very well, from the time both were at blackburn, all nicely sorted, speakman will be pleased.
 
Let’s say you get offered a job that brings you back home to the area your family lives in, and for more money?

What ya choosing?
That’s why we need ‘the club’ to splash the cash to secure our most important role at the club.
 
Can't believe in 2022 there's still people who don't understand Football is a buisness and Sunderland AFC are a buisness

Now I f***ing hate that fact but it's a fact nonetheless. All the hoping in the world won't change.

Don't expect players and managers to stay unless they're at the same level as the club. The good ones will leave for more money and more sucsess and they'll do it when they want. Don't get attached.
 
Sick of seeing people defend and refer to “the club” as a collective as if speaking against what happens is being detrimental to or against SAFC as a whole. “The Club” have owners, directors and senior management who are responsible for decision making and funding commitments. When you defend “the club” you defend them. You defend Donald, Sartori, Davison and KLD. That’s defending “the club”.

I’m f***ing pissed off with Neil that he saw fit to drive to Stoke the day before we play but I’m more pissed off with why he made that decision and what drove him to do it.
Money and job security
 
That’s why we need ‘the club’ to splash the cash to secure our most important role at the club.

To be fair, Speakman has said live on TV new terms were offered. It’s not enough.

The fact his family live an hour away from Stoke is the main factor here. His decision is made.
 
To be fair, Speakman has said live on TV new terms were offered. It’s not enough.

The fact his family live an hour away from Stoke is the main factor here. His decision is made.
I missed that- also missed the fact that he was estranged from his family until yesterday.
 
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More than a fair argument mate. I don't think the board could have done much more than what they had done to back him. 24 hours before a league match, and 4 days before the window closes is an absolute piss take time to leave, which to me can't be excused even had they not backed him. Especially for a bloke that goes on about morals and integrity.



It may have been that behind the scenes, but publically he spoke about the money. I've seen/read plenty of interviews when we first appointed him, couldn't be arsed to have a proper search, but here he is spouting about why PL money had an effect on his sacking:


I don't disagree in terms of timing, mate. It's really poor from him. Being backed is subjective and though. If he's asked for 30 players (example) and been given none of them then he will undoubtedly feel like he hasn't been backed.
 
Let’s say you get offered a job that brings you back home to the area your family lives in, and for more money?

What ya choosing?

Christ almighty man. The UK is an small island. These people are millionaires. Reckon I could cope with a commute if a)
He’s not moving to Stoke because he’s a ****. It’s either for family reasons or cos he’s not getting what’s he needs to do the job here. Both have been suggested but the latter seems a very reasonable assumption given who owns us and the constant “self sufficient” shite we get thrown down our necks.

Absolute bullshit. Reasonable assumption? Explain how he hasn't been backed in the transfer market or are we back to the Mary Poppins school of football and just pulling unlimited dream team resource out of the bag?

He's not Pep Guardiola FFS - demanding shit then walking away from the players, bound by the 'togetherness' that he believes he's created, then abandoning the poor bastards so he can a) have more say on transfers despite there being an embargo at the club he's joining i.e be a manager NOT a Head Coach (which is the contract he was happy with 4 weeks ago) or b) be closer to Preston to his family. f***ing hell. He's not in the navy and 10,000 miles away from his family.

Here's a misguided careerist. Pure and simple. Was always bigger than the club in his head.

My guess is he was that desperate to get back into football, he signed whatever contract Sunderland put in front of him.

Once we were promoted, it reignited a sense of self assurance and confidence he'd probably lost whilst unemployed which led to him thinking, hold on a minute, I'm not not happy with the terms.

Meanwhile, The Potters massage his small man ego = job done.

Togetherness. Bollocks.
 
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