Debuchy


Status
Not open for further replies.
I think he's been disappointing at Newcastle personally. After watching Euro 2012, I thought he was outstanding but he's been solid at Newcastle without being anything special.



That analysis brings up some interesting points but it is a bit skewed. For example, "Tackles won" as a stat unless it is a percentage s Newcastle defenders will have to make more tackles than Arsenal ones. Debuchy's percentage of tackles won is 55% and Sagna's is 56%. In terms of total duels won (aerial included) Debuchy's is 57% whilst Sagna's is 61%.

That article focused on goals, assists and chances created to claim Debuchy was stronger going forward. However, it might just show a different style. For example, Sagna's pass completion is 85% compared with Debuchy's 73%. Sagna plays in a system designed to keep the ball and will often prefer to make a simple pass rather than put the ball into the box.

Debuchy is not just more wasteful in his passing either. Whilst they've both scored 1 goal each, a look at their shooting stats tells a different story. Debuchy has had 35 shots to Sagna's 16. So again, whilst Sagna suits Arsenal's measured build up, Debuchy is wasteful with shots. The shots taken might also show poor decision making. Of Sagna's 16 shots, only 5 of them were outside of the box. Sagna shoots more often than not, when he is in the box and has a greater chance of scoring. Over half of Debuchy's shots were from outside of the area.

good reply mate.
 
New account time for him I reckon.

Not sure whether to be impressed at his Donnie Brasco-esque levels of dedication to being undercover, or just feel sorry for the lad.
He's been accused of being one of them for quite a while I think.
 
I think he's been disappointing at Newcastle personally. After watching Euro 2012, I thought he was outstanding but he's been solid at Newcastle without being anything special.



That analysis brings up some interesting points but it is a bit skewed. For example, "Tackles won" as a stat unless it is a percentage s Newcastle defenders will have to make more tackles than Arsenal ones. Debuchy's percentage of tackles won is 55% and Sagna's is 56%. In terms of total duels won (aerial included) Debuchy's is 57% whilst Sagna's is 61%.

That article focused on goals, assists and chances created to claim Debuchy was stronger going forward. However, it might just show a different style. For example, Sagna's pass completion is 85% compared with Debuchy's 73%. Sagna plays in a system designed to keep the ball and will often prefer to make a simple pass rather than put the ball into the box.

Debuchy is not just more wasteful in his passing either. Whilst they've both scored 1 goal each, a look at their shooting stats tells a different story. Debuchy has had 35 shots to Sagna's 16. So again, whilst Sagna suits Arsenal's measured build up, Debuchy is wasteful with shots. The shots taken might also show poor decision making. Of Sagna's 16 shots, only 5 of them were outside of the box. Sagna shoots more often than not, when he is in the box and has a greater chance of scoring. Over half of Debuchy's shots were from outside of the area.
What were Bardo's stats from last season and how did he compare out of interest? Didn't particularly rate him but didn't think there was a massive gulf between them if I'm honest, wondered if 'the stats' backed this up or am I'm being a wally ! Cue abuse
 
Their defence will be f***ing terrible if he goes.

Santon, Williamson, S Taylor and R Taylor :eek::eek:
Their defence was f***ing terrible with him god knows what'll it'll be like without him then

Arsenal going for him as they know they've got bog all chance of signing Seamus Coleman
 
He's been accused of being one of them for quite a while I think.

Have had a feeling he's been one for a while, but he's been on here for at least 3 years now. Don't know why he hasn't owned up to being one before now instead of carrying on being a WUM.

He's another one of Newcastle's assets. They really are running thin now. Coloccini next and they're knackered IMO.

Don't think Coloccini would be that big a loss for them now, he's nothing like the player he was 2 years ago. Having said that, the trio of Mbiwa, Taylor and Williamson are truly awful.
 
What were Bardo's stats from last season and how did he compare out of interest? Didn't particularly rate him but didn't think there was a massive gulf between them if I'm honest, wondered if 'the stats' backed this up or am I'm being a wally ! Cue abuse

Sorry mate, just seen this:

Goals: Debuchy 1, Bardsley 2
Assists: Debuchy 3, Bardsley 0
Chances Created: Debuchy 23, Bardsley 19
Pass Completion: Debuchy 73%, Bardsley 76%
Total Shots (outside area): Debuchy 35 (19), Bardsley 31 (22)
Tackles Won percentage: Debuchy 55%, Bardsley 63%
Total Duels won percentage: Debuchy 57%. Bardsley 57%
Interceptions: Debuchy 69, Bardsley 23
Blocks: Debuchy 12, Bardsley 21
Clearances: Debuchy 152, Bardsley 83.
Fouls committed: Debuchy 43, Bardsley 23.

Both of them are very wasteful in attack. Bardsley retains possession better but his decision making around shots is appalling and he creates less than in terms of chances and assists. Defence is interesting. Bardsley wins more tackles. Debuchy is superb at interceptions and clearances. I would argue that this is because he has more pace and awareness of his position, making more of his defending about reading the game, where Bardsley's strengths in defence (Tackling, Blocking) are reactive to what is happening in the game.
 
Sorry mate, just seen this:

Goals: Debuchy 1, Bardsley 2
Assists: Debuchy 3, Bardsley 0
Chances Created: Debuchy 23, Bardsley 19
Pass Completion: Debuchy 73%, Bardsley 76%
Total Shots (outside area): Debuchy 35 (19), Bardsley 31 (22)
Tackles Won percentage: Debuchy 55%, Bardsley 63%
Total Duels won percentage: Debuchy 57%. Bardsley 57%
Interceptions: Debuchy 69, Bardsley 23
Blocks: Debuchy 12, Bardsley 21
Clearances: Debuchy 152, Bardsley 83.
Fouls committed: Debuchy 43, Bardsley 23.

Both of them are very wasteful in attack. Bardsley retains possession better but his decision making around shots is appalling and he creates less than in terms of chances and assists. Defence is interesting. Bardsley wins more tackles. Debuchy is superb at interceptions and clearances. I would argue that this is because he has more pace and awareness of his position, making more of his defending about reading the game, where Bardsley's strengths in defence (Tackling, Blocking) are reactive to what is happening in the game.
Cheers for that, Debuchy obviously offers more but not massively it would seem, but like we've said stats can bend the truth somewhat if you want them to, pity he went for nowt I know that, could have been worth a fortune in this window the way values are going !
 
One is attacking one is a defensive midfielder so again can't really compare the 2, toure plays for city which may also help, debuchy played in a struggling mags team and still was the best right back in Europe :)
Piss off you dopey nob
 
Probably our best player who hasn't been exiled. Not surprising that we're considering selling as soon as a decent offer comes in.

He's been absolutely shite for you like from what I have seen.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top