David Moyes' SAFC Record


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If I was as bad at my job I'd not last a year, football is and always will be a results business. A rebuilding job is 10 times harder without Premier League finances, when we are relegated he will have utterly failed and he is failing miserably, he should pay with his job.

The tone of this sums it up. People are upset to the point that they are wilfully blind to the real problems. They don't want to accept that it's a long term job and won't be a quick fix. Someone needs to be punished for how upset they are, so the manager "must go".

Then, in a year or so, we'll be right back here whinging about another manager, when the real problems continue to fester. Round and round we go.
 
He dealt with the Kone situation well, he brought Anichebe in out of nowhere and was very unlucky that he got injured.

What were you expecting, on the circumstances? It really is as if people just slept through the last five years.

In any event, your question betrays the problem. People are talking about his performance "this season". Nobody is going to succeed at this club until someone is given the chance to do the job over 3, 4, 5 seasons. It's not a club where anyone is going to come in and succeed in a year.

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So he didn't sell Kone, and was "unlucky" that the injury ridden Anichebe got injured. That was all you had. Not even worth the debate

I'm not the one claiming that he should be judged now - quite the opposite. It's a long term job and I've never argued any different.
 
The tone of this sums it up. People are upset to the point that they are wilfully blind to the real problems. They don't want to accept that it's a long term job and won't be a quick fix. Someone needs to be punished for how upset they are, so the manager "must go".

Then, in a year or so, we'll be right back here whinging about another manager, when the real problems continue to fester. Round and round we go.

He has failed where everyone else has succeeded, there are without doubt other big problems at the club but the playing and coaching side is a tragic mess at present and he is responsible for that. His recruitment has been bizarre at best and his tactics and subs have been bordering on dreadful.

There are plenty problems with this club at the minute but he is one of them whether you like it or not.
 
Like I said, it defines the problem that people are narrow minded and ignorant enough to think it's a one-year job.
See you have bought into that propaganda aswell then.

You have to earn time and earn the right to rebuild. Moyes hasn't done that.
 
So Moyes, despite all the shot he was dealt, is 1% behind Allardyce?

If only he'd been blessed with a fully fit Kirchhoff and Cattermole, an interested Kone, and a Khazri that wasn't a stone overweight.
He's also worse than Gus, Martin, Brucey and Keano

and yet injuries and luck have not helped

STID
 
He has failed where everyone else has succeeded, there are without doubt other big problems at the club but the playing and coaching side is a tragic mess at present and he is responsible for that. His recruitment has been bizarre at best and his tactics and subs have been bordering on dreadful.

There are plenty problems with this club at the minute but he is one of them whether you like it or not.

Who are these others who succeeded? Are you calling success staging a late run to scrape by every ear, while the squad gets more and more saddled with shite, the wage bill creeps up and up as we continue to sack managers and do a desperate patch up job? That's success?
 
Had no money to spend iirc.

This despite spending the same or more than the likes of WBA, Stoke, Bournemouth and Hull.
I can't defend him, but we did have a thin squad and we didn't get the numbers required.
 
No, bit it doesn't feel like a shock either. Like I said, some of us have actually been paying attention for the past five years.



What are you basing that on? The undeniable truth that clubs which give managers time tend to be more successful?

At Chelsea? Aye City?

How about the success we've had in changing managers and stopping up.

The one season we don't for years. Look what's happened.
 
What are you basing that on? The undeniable truth that clubs which give managers time tend to be more successful?
The opposite is true - managers that are successful tend to get more time.

Can you give me an example of a manager that was in charge for a full season, relegated the club and then went on to be successful?
 
At Chelsea? Aye City?

How about the success we've had in changing managers and stopping up.

The one season we don't for years. Look what's happened.

You seriously define stopping up in a desperate late dash as success? Even when each has left a harder and harder job for their predecessor, year on year?
 
The tone of this sums it up. People are upset to the point that they are wilfully blind to the real problems. They don't want to accept that it's a long term job and won't be a quick fix. Someone needs to be punished for how upset they are, so the manager "must go".

Then, in a year or so, we'll be right back here whinging about another manager, when the real problems continue to fester. Round and round we go.

So you think he's made things better? Or has he added to the issues that need addressing?
 
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