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I wasn't a massive fan of the podcast Jones did at RR a couple of years ago so when he came in, I wasn't especially enthused.

I believe he has been more critical and spoken about how things would need to change (i agreed with his assessment) as opposed to a general air of everything/Donald is great (Sloanes).

My first post in this thread is disagreeing with Jones outlook of being optimistic.

It's a fundamental disagreement of an outlook towards football and strategy, not a character assassination.

fair enough. I'm 100% confident that Sloanes will drive standards as much as anyone. That's good enough for me.
 
Both Tom Sloanes and Dave Jones can be integral going forward if they're given a chance. Tom, in particular, is a great chap who'd be there socially distanced as a supporter when the gates reopen if he wasn't in the board room. I don't know Dave Jones so can't speak about him on a personal level. We, as a fan base, have a responsibility to question everything of course but make sure we are asking the right questions of the right people. They were both excellent appointments at the time and they're probably needed even more so now. Some of the stick Tom has taken has been out of order and it really doesn't help anyone or anything. I know Tom will get on with it and I know he knew he's put himself in a position to be shot at when he agreed to join a board of directions that isn't popular outside the club but we still have a responsibility to question the right things.

It seems that they are currently being given that chance that they require to have a say at the table. That's a good thing.

There'll be no one more pissed off if this season isn't a success than Tom and Dave Jones I'm sure.

Lets get behind whoever we have next month and see where it gets us.

Keep the faith. 😉
The stick Tom received was a direct result of his approach to the meeting he attended with Donald. Weird you'd choose to ignore that.
 
Thing I think about Dave Jones is he doesn’t need the job or the money- if he didn’t believe in it he would leave. And he spoke out against a comment of Methven on social media- showing he’s not pushover.

Same applies to Tom Sloanes who could quite easily just run Betdaq from his base and leave the club to it. He also backed Jones up on Twitter with those comments.

Sounds like Sloanes is paying me to back him up on here but I wouldn't even consider him a "friend" as referred to earlier. He's someone I've got to know and I respect him and feel obliged to speak up when he's taking pelters which I find ridiculous.
The stick Tom received was a direct result of his approach to the meeting he attended with Donald. Weird you'd choose to ignore that.

I'll be honest I read the minutes from that meeting and really struggled to find anything that warranted the abuse that followed. Obviously those that were blasting Sloanes were then claiming that Donald was making all the abuse up that he's received.

I don't know what you wanted from that meeting? Sloanes to join in and throw abuse at Donald? That's never going to happen (rightly so) so you're always going to be disappointed.
 
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I'll be honest I read the minutes from that meeting and really struggled to find anything that warranted the abuse that followed. Obviously those that were blasting Sloanes were then claiming that Donald was making all the abuse up that he's received.

I don't know what you wanted from that meeting? Sloanes to join in and throw abuse at Donald? That's never going to happen (rightly so) so you're always going to be disappointed.
What am absolute load of hyperbole and nonsense that last paragraph is.

I'll be honest too, if you'd said to me two years ago that you'd have mellowed and become an apologist for what's gone on at the club in that period, I'd not have believed it, but here we are eh?
 
What about when we've just finished in the lowest position in the club's history?

Quite smart of Donald get a happy clapper on the board to tell us all that everything is great. When all of the evidence tells us that actually everything is utter f***ing shite. The first team,and the 23s utter f***ing garbage. The kids are decent though so let's sell them all for whatever we can get.
 
What about when we've just finished in the lowest position in the club's history?

This is another thing that I vehemently dislike. The season wasn't finished. If you really want to look for an excuse to criticise the club then by all means use the fact we didn't win promotion in March but we were one of 23 teams that had won nothing at that point in the season. Our league position was finalised by a vote. It's seriously unfair to lambast the club because Wycombe decided they would vote us out of the play offs to benefit themselves.

Do I think being 7th in March is good enough? Nope. Do I wish we were top by 20 points? Aye. I'm absolutely adamant that we had a very good chance of finishing in the top 6 (and possibly even higher) though!

Let's pick ourselves up and go again and hope that this season is finished on the pitch because then we might actually stand a chance! Last season as far as im concerned is wiped from history, absolute waste of time discussing the ins and outs of a season where teams played an uneven amount of home and away fixtures, played an uneven amount of fixtures and was completed in an office via email.
What am absolute load of hyperbole and nonsense that last paragraph is.

I'll be honest too, if you'd said to me two years ago that you'd have mellowed and become an apologist for what's gone on at the club in that period, I'd not have believed it, but here we are eh?

I'm far from an apologist. Just a realist. We're in a position where the club have been criticised for failing to win promotion in March and I'm not willing to go along with that theory. If we finish 7th this season (on the pitch), I'll be the first to say it's not good enough.

We'll see...
 
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This is another thing that I vehemently dislike. The season wasn't finished. If you really want to look for an excuse to criticise the club then by all means use the fact we didn't win promotion in March but we were one of 23 teams that had won nothing at that point in the season. Our league position was finalised by a vote. It's seriously unfair to lambast the club because Wycombe decided they would vote us out of the play offs to benefit themselves.

Do I think being 7th in March is good enough? Nope. Do I wish we were top by 20 points? Aye. I'm absolutely adamant that we had a very good chance of finishing in the top 6 (and possibly even higher) though!

Let's pick ourselves up and go again and hope that this season is finished on the pitch because then we might actually stand a chance! Last season as far as im concerned is wiped from history, absolute waste of time discussing the ins and outs of a season where teams played an uneven amount of home and away fixtures, played an uneven amount of fixtures and was completed in an office via email.

Conveniently ignoring our form which strongly suggested we woukd be outside the play offs.
 
Same applies to Tom Sloanes who could quite easily just run Betdaq from his base and leave the club to it. He also backed Jones up on Twitter with those comments.

Sounds like Sloanes is paying me to back him up on here but I wouldn't even consider him a "friend" as referred to earlier. He's someone I've got to know and I respect him and feel obliged to speak up when he's taking pelters which I find ridiculous.


I'll be honest I read the minutes from that meeting and really struggled to find anything that warranted the abuse that followed. Obviously those that were blasting Sloanes were then claiming that Donald was making all the abuse up that he's received.

I don't know what you wanted from that meeting? Sloanes to join in and throw abuse at Donald? That's never going to happen (rightly so) so you're always going to be disappointed.

I don’t like Sloanes blocking people on Twitter, yeah there’s some morons but some people just had a difference of opinions.
 
Conveniently ignoring our form which strongly suggested we woukd be outside the play offs.

We had just battered Wycombe (who are now in the championship) and beaten the other finalists away from home. If you look beyond the away game against Bristol Rovers where we were absolutely dreadful then you'll see we had an excellent chance at being amongst the top 6.
I don’t like Sloanes blocking people on Twitter, yeah there’s some morons but some people just had a difference of opinions.

blocking people on Twitter does go against my former role ever so slightly but I never encountered anyone throwing abuse at our department. I'd like to see why he was blocking people but yeah it's not something I'd agree with normally.
 
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blocking people on Twitter does go against my former role ever so slightly but I never encountered anyone throwing abuse at our department. I'd like to see why he was blocking people but yeah it's not something I'd agree with normally.
People were blocked who had never even engaged with him according to a few on here. Not me mind, so I can't confirm it for certain, but really strange.
 
If he walks the walk half as well as he talks the talk then he sounds like a real asset to the board and the club.

I think he's class in this. Most of what he's saying should have been the focus and strategy of the club at least since we dropped from the Prem if not years earlier.





It'll be sod's law that we finally have someone with a vision of how a sustainable club should be run only for new owners to come along with their own men. I personally hope that whoever takes over from Donald strongly considers keeping Jones on board.

Why they doing this if wa getting flogged?

Deja Fookin Horseshoite....
 
Same applies to Tom Sloanes who could quite easily just run Betdaq from his base and leave the club to it. He also backed Jones up on Twitter with those comments.

Sounds like Sloanes is paying me to back him up on here but I wouldn't even consider him a "friend" as referred to earlier. He's someone I've got to know and I respect him and feel obliged to speak up when he's taking pelters which I find ridiculous.


I'll be honest I read the minutes from that meeting and really struggled to find anything that warranted the abuse that followed. Obviously those that were blasting Sloanes were then claiming that Donald was making all the abuse up that he's received.

I don't know what you wanted from that meeting? Sloanes to join in and throw abuse at Donald? That's never going to happen (rightly so) so you're always going to be disappointed.

Do you not think SD was making stuff up about his Daughter being forced to go home with 3 SAFC supporters before he then had a laugh with them?

i’ve nothing personal against Sloanes, but they all allowed SD to pretty much blame & criticise Rawa and fans for everything during that meeting including telling a fan to shut up. The fact he blocked everyone on twitter who dared to disagree or ask him why tells you all you need to know
 
People were blocked who had never even engaged with him according to a few on here. Not me mind, so I can't confirm it for certain, but really strange.

There's probably a very good chance a few of those were blocked before he took the role at SAFC. Don't think you can blame anyone for removing people they don't want on their personal social media. I've done it plenty of times but if these same people wanted help or needed to get in touch through professional channels then I would have been there every step of the way to help where I could.
 
This is another thing that I vehemently dislike. The season wasn't finished. If you really want to look for an excuse to criticise the club then by all means use the fact we didn't win promotion in March but we were one of 23 teams that had won nothing at that point in the season. Our league position was finalised by a vote. It's seriously unfair to lambast the club because Wycombe decided they would vote us out of the play offs to benefit themselves.

Do I think being 7th in March is good enough? Nope. Do I wish we were top by 20 points? Aye. I'm absolutely adamant that we had a very good chance of finishing in the top 6 (and possibly even higher) though!

Let's pick ourselves up and go again and hope that this season is finished on the pitch because then we might actually stand a chance! Last season as far as im concerned is wiped from history, absolute waste of time discussing the ins and outs of a season where teams played an uneven amount of home and away fixtures, played an uneven amount of fixtures and was completed in an office via email.


I'm far from an apologist. Just a realist. We're in a position where the club have been criticised for failing to win promotion in March and I'm not willing to go along with that theory. If we finish 7th this season (on the pitch), I'll be the first to say it's not good enough.

We'll see...
Well said mate.
 
We had just battered Wycombe (who are now in the championship) and beaten the other finalists away from home. If you look beyond the away game against Bristol Rovers where we were absolutely dreadful then you'll see we had an excellent chance at being amongst the top 6.

Really? We were on the slide quite significantly. We'd gone off the boil completely and looked as bad as when PP took over.

In the last four games before the season ended we were dicked by Bristol Rovers, drew at home to Gillingham, were beaten by Coventry and drew with Fleetwood. All shit teams who are back in with us next season.

I wouldn't have put a penny on us going up, we weren't up to it.
 
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