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He was but I still think Neil will be a better playerLeadbitter was playing in the prem regularly at 22
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He was but I still think Neil will be a better playerLeadbitter was playing in the prem regularly at 22
That's a slippery path to go down. However, I missed the first game of the season this year, for the first time I can remember, so I think the last game was the Wigan one. You stated Henderson is the best midfielder England have produced in the last 30 years. How many times have you seen him, and his competitors for that accolade, in the flesh in the last 10 years? I never miss a Sunderland game, always watching live. I'm sure you can't say the same for Liverpool games, or can you?Don't take this the wrong way, but when is the last time you watched the lads in the flesh?
and then he went to LiverpoolHenderson was playing in the Premier League for one of the top clubs and had played for England by the time he was Neil's age.
Dan Neil is 22 next week. Jordan Henderson was in the England squad for a major tournament at the same age.
James Vaughan was scoring in the Premier league at 16. Harry Kane was going from loan to loan at 21.When he’s England captain and having won every single trophy there is to win come back and say it![]()
James Vaughan > Harry KaneI love Dan Neil and he's possibly a bit more talented in some ways than Henderson, but Hendeson was already better and playing at a better level at the same age (IIRC had played for England ) and had the physical attributes to do it at 19/20, something you would maybe still question about Neil.
You’re comparing apples and oranges there though. I took Neil and Henderson at Neil’s current age (the month they turn 22).James Vaughan was scoring in the Premier league at 16. Harry Kane was going from loan to loan at 21.
Comparisons mean very little
James Vaughan > Harry Kane
I agree i made a outlandish comparison, on purpose I might add.You’re comparing apples and oranges there though. I took Neil and Henderson at Neil’s current age (the month they turn 22).
James Vaughan the month he turned 22 had scored 7 Premier league goals in 48 games, and he had no international caps. Harry Kane at the same age had scored 24 PL goals in 45 games and had 2 caps for England.
Obviously there are exceptions like Jamie Vardy, Kevin Phillips and Ian Wright, but in the majority of cases you can tell by seeing 2 players at around the age of 22/23 which one is going to have a better career.
Fair enough - not really sure where I was going with that one.That's a slippery path to go down. However, I missed the first game of the season this year, for the first time I can remember, so I think the last game was the Wigan one. You stated Henderson is the best midfielder England have produced in the last 30 years. How many times have you seen him, and his competitors for that accolade, in the flesh in the last 10 years? I never miss a Sunderland game, always watching live. I'm sure you can't say the same for Liverpool games, or can you?
Top 5 then. I'd had a drink.That is insane.
Absolutely fuckin worrying that you have watched that period of English midfielders and Jordan Henderson is your best out of the lot.
you can’t be serious.
Well I wouldn't include Beckham in the same bracket of players positionally.That claim is as bad as the OP.
Most be smoking some strong stuff. He’s not a patch on lamps, Gerard, scholes, Beckham lol
Off his rocker