No he doesn't and he has explained multiple times why he doesn't stop them.
Cyclingmikey.
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Cos he's a ****
Yeah, no
He'd easily knack yay
Gelan
Winger
If you're on the road in a car with the engine running it's not legal to be checking your phone...what other laws do you think we should ignore?
Reminds me of myself and frijj
I've done 53 years problem free, meaning that you've still got 28 years to f**k up
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pavarotti1980
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Likelihood is slim. I drive to work and back in rush hour now and other driving is smallIf you're on the road in a car with the engine running it's not legal to be checking your phone...what other laws do you think we should ignore?
Reminds me of myself and frijj
I've done 53 years problem free, meaning that you've still got 28 years to f**k up
VINCENT VEGA
Winger
they don't have registration plates for a start you wolly. Do you want him to ring in and say some bloke on a green bike like?
He says in many of his videos that if he tries to stop cyclists/motorcyclist and knocked them off their bikes then he's liable.
He's not going to injure anyone who is in a car
DaveH
Striker
If you're on the road in a car with the engine running it's not legal to be checking your phone...what other laws do you think we should ignore?
While that is true, it feels like an area where common sense must be applied. If someone is sat in stationary traffic out of gear and the hand break on doing something on their phone then there is zero risk to anyone. There are legitimate uses for that. Checking the likes of Google maps which shows where is busy, where an accident might be and give drivers options to avoid. Occasionally if stopped and safe, I might send a message back to work warning people to go the other way and not add to the congestion problem. I would never try to do something on my phone while driving. Being honest I'm a bit crap with my phone and if walking will normally step to the side of the path and stand still to use it!
If a car has built-in sat nav, it is legal to change that when stopped (I believe) but currently not if it is being done via a phone with a dash mount. Same operation and for those cars with embedded Android it is exactly the same system, only one is glued into the dash.
I would imagine a police officer might try to pull someone in driving dangerously while operating a phone but would walk past someone stopped using a phone.
Cars that have the auto-stop-start while stationary also muddy the water on this law.
Irrelevant, if you're in a live lane of traffic then you considered to be driving.
The common sense to be applied is not to use your phone at all whilst in your car unless you're pulled over with your engine off.
VINCENT VEGA
Winger
aye i went from thinking Mikey was a nob at first and agreeing with the above poster to now thinking Mikeys in the right and liking him and his videos. Proven by the amount of people completely unaware that he is even stood at their window filming. A young child could have ran infront of your car and you wouldn't even know it. Can tell by some of the reactions also that some of those caught are entitled and think they're above the rules and will absolutely be using their phones once moving.
Walter H. White
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If you watch his videos though, you’ll notice that probably 90% of the people on their phones whilst stationary in traffic continue moving whilst still on their phone.
DaveH
Striker
Why is it any less risk to sit in non-moving traffic with your engine off than sat in non-moving traffic plotting an alternative route with your hand break on and out of gear? Either way your car is not going anywhere, the difference is only the brum brum sound. If you can get out of the traffic jam and use other routes it helps clear the problem improving the road for others.
Common sense and the law is quite a big area for discussion and the subject of quite a bit of study for law degrees. In some areas it is classes the law as a directive to be interpreted reasonably.
One example in the context of driving was when I worked as a civilian for the police. To drive any car belonging to the police, everyone has to do the same driving test, even though these were just ordinary pool cars usually used for taking evidence to court or visiting one of the stations. My test was in a high powered police pursuit vehicle and because they were training up more traffic officers to be driving trainers and assessors, I had three traffic police in the car. On the motorway I came up to a row of lorries doing about 68 so started crawling past at 70mph. I was told to stick my foot down to 75 and get passed them. It would have taken ages to overtake in the middle lane, which causes congestion and the traffic to slow and that can cause accidents. It was made worse by me being in a marked police car so nobody was going to overtake on the outside and I could see congestion building behind. It prompted some interesting discussion in the car but generally they were all of the view that it was safer and better to speed by a small amount for a short while to keep the road clear than stick to the letter of the law. The bloke in charge said occasionally a new officer would pull someone over for speeding very slightly in fairly safe circumstances and he would give them a bollocking for it. It was the voice of experience. I broke the law, it was in front of three people who could have pressed charges, they told me to do it for the sake of common sense.
Basically there is the law and then there is the interpretation and reasonable implementation of the law. Completely still with engine on vs completely still with engine off is something an inexperienced officer might tackle but someone with a few years on the job would recognise it for the anal application of the law that creates lots of hassle for everyone involved but doesn't make the road any safer, and walk on.
VINCENT VEGA
Winger
Watch the videos its clearly dangerous they have no awareness of their surroundings at all, most of them are sat on social media etc completely taking the piss.
DaveH
Striker
True and in those cases they should be prosecuted. If traffic is slow and they are crawling without looking, would they notice someone stepping out and trying to cross between stopped cars? Possibly not and in that circumstance it is dangerous. With hand break on it is not.
My response was not to the videos directly, it was response to the comment that it is dangerous to use a phone with the engine running and doing so is saying we can ignore laws. My point is it is dangerous to use the a phone while moving (driving but not looking), but it is not dangerous to use it while completely stopped with the engine running. I.e. apply common sense.
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cosmicchris00
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That cabbie is so stressed he should seek help.
Driving for a living will do that to you - especially in London.
There is still absolutely no excuse for his behaviour
VINCENT VEGA
Winger
Guess id generally agree unless in traffic or where pedestrians are around
A whaaat?
Or don't realise the cars ahead have started moving again, thus causing congestion.
The Mole
Winger
Yeah two wrongs don't make it right. However breaking the law on a cycle is hardly comparable to breaking the law while driving a vehicle when the consequences are so much worse the knars
