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Has he got the same agent as Rodwell? A lot of history re-writing seems to get done by supporters of buying clubs.Two players who have potential but seem destined not to fulfill it, I remember us saying similar about Rodwell last season(in fact some still are). If we or Palace were paying similar for a foreign striker of the same age and goal scoring record, the boards would implode.
 
I don't think so. A total of 22.5m for Connor Wickham who has scored minimal goals in 90 games. 9/10m fee and 12.5m on wages to reinvest on someone who might have potential and can actually deliver it. We have waited for 5 years with Wickham. He hasn't delivered it.
:lol: 90 games my hairy arsehole man.
 
It's remarkable isn't it. He is one of the most frustrating players I have ever watched. Think my BP will go back to normal now. Won't be screaming at the match for him to use his frame or battle with his opponent.

Not at all, that really is not the point.

Clubs buy and sell all the time, the asset has more worth depending on numerous factors, as I said selling him and replacing him with better makes sense.

THe point is, have we obtained FULL value for an asset of his type, I think at the numbers quoted we have not.

THe discussion about his application / attitude / record is a different issue, if we sell, lets get maximum revenue, do you think we have? Compared to the market as it now is?
 
When did this happen? :lol:

He's of the standard bottom half premier league player. If that makes him worth £10 million then we truly are tucked.

Are you watching the fees being paid for dogshit players?

Come back and quote this to me at the end of next season, I will happily agree with you if you are corrrect, and the lad is shit for them.
 
This smacks of when the Stoke fans were crowing after they signed Kenwyne Jones from us..... :lol::lol::lol::lol: reality will bite soon enough!

It's identical. I said that to a Palace fan on twitter (one of them actually said he'd have as good a season as Harry Kane) and he replied with "Yeah, but he was a one trick pony". They're in for an awful shock
 
Not at all, that really is not the point.

Clubs buy and sell all the time, the asset has more worth depending on numerous factors, as I said selling him and replacing him with better makes sense.

THe point is, have we obtained FULL value for an asset of his type, I think at the numbers quoted we have not.

THe discussion about his application / attitude / record is a different issue, if we sell, lets get maximum revenue, do you think we have? Compared to the market as it now is?

I do. He hasn't delivered. Isn't prolific. Isn't a target man. Best part of 10m then I say we have.
 
49 league starts (subbed 18 times) and 30 appearances as a sub isn't five seasons mate.

2011-2015 is four seasons. A mistake on my part but I can safely say that the point still stands. The fact that he was regularly either sent out on loan or left on the bench/out of the squad speaks volumes as well, particularly as we have consistently been a low scoring team throughout that period.

Even based on the appearances alone, his record is appalling. Add that to the fact that he couldn't control a medicine ball and you can see why this is incredible business.
 
It's remarkable isn't it. He is one of the most frustrating players I have ever watched. Think my BP will go back to normal now. Won't be screaming at the match for him to use his frame or battle with his opponent.
It's already been said but he's had 5 managers none of which have played him in what is supposed to be his best role. There must be a reason for that. Let him go , put the money into Austin and we look a lot better

Lens-Austin - Johnson is a huge improvement on the top 3 with Defoe as back up.

He has to be replaced properly or we've not moved on mind
 
2011-2015 is four seasons. A mistake on my part but I can safely say that the point still stands. The fact that he was regularly either sent out on loan or left on the bench/out of the squad speaks volumes as well, particularly as we have consistently been a low scoring team throughout that period.

Even based on the appearances alone, his record is appalling. Add that to the fact that he couldn't control a medicine ball and you can see why this is incredible business.


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I do. He hasn't delivered. Isn't prolific. Isn't a target man. Best part of 10m then I say we have.

Then I will end my discussion by summarising

The lad has much more ability than we have got out of him here, don't know why.

We have failed to use him wisely

Selling him for a better option is correct

Selling him for a sub market rate is stupid, but typical

He will become a very effective premier leaugue player, and will in his first season for palace socre more than in any of his seasons here.


That's it, sell for the right price, move on, and learn, square pegs fit square holes.
 
He will net at least 10 next season. He's been largely ignored as an out and out striker by our club since he came. Also the service to him has been abysmal. Pardew will play him up front and will persevere with him, good luck to the lad, hope he doesn't come back and haunt us.
 
Then I will end my discussion by summarising

The lad has much more ability than we have got out of him here, don't know why.

We have failed to use him wisely

Selling him for a better option is correct

Selling him for a sub market rate is stupid, but typical

He will become a very effective premier leaugue player, and will in his first season for palace socre more than in any of his seasons here.


That's it, sell for the right price, move on, and learn, square pegs fit square holes.

Fair enough, you have your opinion mate. We can review at the end of the forthcoming season.
 
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