Criticism of O'Neill's approach


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there are too many off days , can count on one hand how many games i have enjoyed as a football spectacle this season


don't have a proper right back (gardener is a decent player but not a specialist fullback)
Oshea distribution is woeful... puts us under real pressure with many of his up field clearances
larrson is way too slow and defensively is a liability
sess has been hot and cold this season... where is his natural position
johnson... anonymous in many games, not very pacey
playing one upfront is too negative

sqaud has a threadbare feel about it....sick of mending and make do
 
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don't have a proper right back (gardener is a decent player but not a specialist fullback)
Oshea distribution is woeful... puts us under real pressure with many of his up field clearances
larrson is way too slow and defensively is a liability
sess has been hot and cold this season... where is his natural position
johnson... anonymous in many games, not very pacey
playing one upfront is too negative

Gard-ner
 
The most infuriating thing in all of this for me is that when we go out positively, high pressure high tempo, we look a good side. Whatever is stopping us doing that every game, it's likely the fault of the manager somewhere along the line.

Not fit enough?
Not motivated?

Actual technical ability, or lack of it, doesn't stop them from working hard.

Our 'tactics' seem to be -

Press - look good
Don't press - look shite

It seems an absolute no brainer to me. Get them fitter, get them pressing more often, winning the ball higher up the pitch.
 
I think we all agree that it isn't pretty to watch and it's not going to win us any new fans.

But MoN has been left a team of plodders and is slowly getting rid of them. When Bruce was buying a new team every year we all complained that it was causing problems.

Now MoN is looking to bring in quality, albeit slowly, but in 18 months we'll see a much better team.

I was as bored as everyone else yesterday and it became fairly obvious that if anyone was going to lose, it would be us because Reading are desperate.

There's a group of our players who just aren't up to it and half the time they don't look interested.

MoN knows this but he doesn't have many options.
 
I think we all agree that it isn't pretty to watch and it's not going to win us any new fans.

But MoN has been left a team of plodders and is slowly getting rid of them. When Bruce was buying a new team every year we all complained that it was causing problems.

Now MoN is looking to bring in quality, albeit slowly, but in 18 months we'll see a much better team.

I was as bored as everyone else yesterday and it became fairly obvious that if anyone was going to lose, it would be us because Reading are desperate.

There's a group of our players who just aren't up to it and half the time they don't look interested.

MoN knows this but he doesn't have many options.

Strangely the wholesale clearance is exactly what's needed now. I'm more than happy for us to get rid of most of them in the summer without replacements lined up - it's more important right now they get out of the club.

As for MoN's options, I'd rather see a reserve following instructions than an experienced first team shirker phoning yet another one in. Nobody seems to fear for their place any more.
 
Why are we always limping towards the next transfer window though, I don't agree with the argument that is Bruce's team etc, O'Neill was brought here to motivate as well as revamp the squad.

To me, it doesn't look like he can motivate and will only buy success hence we need to get to his 4th window.

Talking of transfers, I still can't believe he didn't buy a right back and a creative central midfield player, our team is crying out for quality on both positions.

Is that not N'Diaye's supposed function?
 
Strangely the wholesale clearance is exactly what's needed now. I'm more than happy for us to get rid of most of them in the summer without replacements lined up - it's more important right now they get out of the club.

As for MoN's options, I'd rather see a reserve following instructions than an experienced first team shirker phoning yet another one in. Nobody seems to fear for their place any more.

There are some of the first team players that should have been shipped out long ago, they have never performed on anything like a regular basis.

For those players, the summer will be end of the road for them.
 
I think we all agree ????? that it isn't pretty to watch and it's not going to win us any new fans.

But MoN has been left a team of plodders and is slowly getting rid of them. When Bruce was buying a new team every year we all complained that it was causing problems.

Now MoN is looking to bring in quality, albeit slowly, but in 18 months ( based on what..hope we'll see a much better team.)

I was as bored as everyone else yesterday and it became fairly obvious that if anyone was going to lose, it would be us because Reading are desperate.

There's a group of our players who just aren't up to it and half the time they don't look interested.

MoN knows this but he doesn't have many options.
Nice words but short on facts and context.
-Bruce inherited a team that was expensively assembled and scraped on the last game due to results from other games. It was a massive pile of shite that clearly exposed keanes huge limitations and lack of fiscal responsibility. Bruce had no choice but rebuild.
- Bruce bought 5 players in his first full window, 6 short of what he needed given the shambles he was left
- He bought 2 more in the first xmas window, meanwhile he peddled 13 of the ccc dross to help finance the rebuild
- He bought 6 more in his next 2 windows and peddled a further 12, 9 of keanes and 3 of his including bent and cana who both wanted out. Cana because he couldnt cope and bent who was just greedy. He also got rid of da Silva who cost nowt anyway
-Bruces final window was the one where he fucked up. Too much shite
Overall though hardly a full team every season.
Bruces first summer window and MoN's are remarkably similar but you knew that but it didnt suit your argument.
Both managers have their failings in the transfer market. Bruce did balance the books and got a lot of dross of the wages. MoN has brought in some quality.
But the incessant need to blame Bruce for our current failings is wearing thin.
I'm glad he's gone, but in all honesty out on the pitch we look shite right now and that isnt SB's fault
 
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We haven't done that for bloody ages.

I remember the times, near the end of games when we would go for it and attack the fuckers.

West Ham rings a bell a few seasons ago.

I thought we would do that v Swansea and it was just not there.

However, is that down to the manager or the players.

I want MON to be the best f***ing manager in my life time, but at the moment we just seem to be plodding on.

Which will do for me (sort off).

After 15/19 point seasons and going up and down more than a whores knickers my hopes are not all that great anymore.
 
As someone has said, in the past, and the same now, there's the idea that the manager has to slowly build his team and replace the dross of the previous incumbent. Well this time I agree, no....let's not do that. We need wholesale changes asap (in may). The current lot are leading to apathy.

I'm watching the likes of f***ing villa pass the ball about fast here on the tele!!!! We rarely do. So either MoN changes it (in which case its his fault) or he doesn't have the players at his disposal....in which case slowly rebuilding is no good
 
As someone has said, in the past, and the same now, there's the idea that the manager has to slowly build his team and replace the dross of the previous incumbent. Well this time I agree, no....let's not do that. We need wholesale changes asap (in may). The current lot are leading to apathy.

I'm watching the likes of f***ing villa pass the ball about fast here on the tele!!!! We rarely do. So either MoN changes it (in which case its his fault) or he doesn't have the players at his disposal....in which case slowly rebuilding is no good

The problem could be that we just don't have the cash to splash. So while I agree we should be getting rid of the shite and replacing them with much better players, that will cost £££££££££££
 
The problem could be that we just don't have the cash to splash. So while I agree we should be getting rid of the shite and replacing them with much better players, that will cost £££££££££££
We have a good enough team to play faster and more attacking football. We are just set up wrong.
 
The problem could be that we just don't have the cash to splash. So while I agree we should be getting rid of the shite and replacing them with much better players, that will cost £££££££££££

Not always though. You see teams picking up bosmans and class deals with a bit scouting (michu etc) .

We don't have to spunk the best part of our money on 2 'quality' players a year
 
Not always though. You see teams picking up bosmans and class deals with a bit scouting (michu etc) .

We don't have to spunk the best part of our money on 2 'quality' players a year

Fair enough.

First thing I would do is sort out two full backs (one would be Rose) and we are desperate for a right back
Centre Half is needed
Creative centre midfield.

So that's a minimum of 4 for me who would be first team players, which some could be funded from sales. Then I would be looking around for some young promising players from the championship etc.
 
dont understand that quote mate , why are you a fan when since he came his football has been lethargic at best , do you mean as in a person because as a football manager im not a fan

I have liked him for years - he's erudite, witty, played for Clough's Forest who I'm old enough to remember admiring as a provincial side that plate great football, didn't argue with refs and were rewarded with two European Cups, he's also a boyhood fan and lastly I liked his Leicester side albeit more as a team that broke the "big club" barrier in the 90s than as a footballing side. He's just the sort of man I'd love to see as the figure to bring real success back to us. It's not been all bad by any stretch but the style of play is baffling, especially as the modern European league rewards attacking football more than it used to.
 
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