Cost of fitting new double electric socket

maygo

Winger
Not in my house they don’t.


If you needed a job doing at your house and it was going to take two days working off £50 per hour labour for 8 hours work..you’d pay someone £800 for two days work?..no way.
If it was a specialised job, aye I would pay whatever the going rate was
Tbh you sound like a nightmare to work for
 

the boot

Midfield
Which specialised jobs in the house are you thinking of that is worth £50 an hour labour for 8 hours a day over 2 days?
Change the consumer unit. Prices are about £350-£500.
At least 2-350 profit
Two hours max if it all goes well.
Love them me. :lol:
 

Cheesy Feet

Striker
If it was a specialised job, aye I would pay whatever the going rate was
Tbh you sound like a nightmare to work for
You sound like a tradesmans dream..I have qualified self employed tradesmen who come to my house and do quality work for nowhere near £50-£60 per hour..I’m not a nightmare to work for because I don’t use people charging that much.
 
Change the consumer unit. Prices are about £350-£500.
At least 2-350 profit
Two hours max if it all goes well.
Love them me. :lol:
I'd asked for specialised jobs of 8 hours a day over 2 days, not a quick 2 hour job :lol: There may well be quite a few pricey jobs as a full rewire can be a big job of course.

That's the whole point of @Cheesy Feet's posts I think, high hourly labour if you factor in time/material costs etc regardless of overheads etc (I've shown example of driving instructor who has canny overheads). The fact you've now said you will charge a customer £100 an hour labour for a 2 hour job given you quoted £200 profit if it's less than 2 hours work. Obviously those consumer units changes are your prices and looking about, some say it can take up to a day and also do the testing etc yet you can do it in 2 hours max if all goes well? What if it takes all day, is the £500 your max for job regardless of what is involved over 8 hours or would you still keep the £100 an hour rate and give them a bill for £950?
 
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maygo

Winger
Which specialised jobs in the house are you thinking of that is worth £50 an hour labour for 8 hours a day over 2 days?
That’s not what I’m saying, I said I would pay the going rate
Fault finding
Putting other people’s shit right
As @the boot said, consumer unit changes, all jobs outside the remit of you expert DIYers. Crack on, just as long as you know that the IEE regulations can be used in court and should someone work out with of those and cause an accident, then you will be found liable
You sound like a tradesmans dream..I have qualified self employed tradesmen who come to my house and do quality work for nowhere near £50-£60 per hour..I’m not a nightmare to work for because I don’t use people charging that much.
A tradesman’s dream? I’m a spark ya git pudding
 
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Cheesy Feet

Striker
I'd asked for specialised jobs of 8 hours a day over 2 days, not a quick 2 hour job :lol: There may well be quite a few pricey jobs as a full rewire can be a big job of course.

That's the whole point of @Cheesy Feet's posts I think, high hourly labour if you factor in time/material costs etc regardless of overheads etc (I've shown example of driving instructor who has canny overheads). The fact you've now said you will charge a customer £100 an hour labour for a 2 hour job given you quoted £200 profit if it's less than 2 hours work. Obviously those consumer units changes are your prices and looking about and some say it can take up to a day and also do the testing etc yet you can do it in 2 hours max if all goes well? What if it takes all day, is the £500 your max for job regardless of what is involved or would you still keep the £100 an hour rate and give them a bill for £950?
That’s nail on the head mate..hourly rates..I understand where @theboot was coming from with his minimum call out..but after that anyone who’s up in the £50-£60 per hour range doesn’t do jobs for me..like I say in the last couple of years I’ve had a Leccy £27-£30 per hour Boiler lad £23-£25 per hour builder/decorator £100 per day for roughly 8 hours..that’s labour alone..people who are paying £50-£60 per hour..good luck to you.
That’s not what I’m saying, I said I would pay the going rate
Fault finding
Putting other people’s shit right
As @the boot said, consumer unit changes, all jobs outside the remit of you expert DIYers. Crack on, just as long as you know that the IEE regulations can be used in court and should someone work out with of those and cause an accident, then you will be found liable

A tradesman’s dream? I’m a spark ya git pudding
How much would you charge labour to be in someone’s house for 8 hours then?
 
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maygo

Winger
That’s nail on the head mate..hourly rates..I understand where @theboot was coming from with his minimum call out..but after that anyone who’s up in the £50-£60 per hour range doesn’t do jobs for me..like I say in the last couple of years I’ve had a Leccy £27-£30 per hour Boiler lad £23-£25 per hour builder/decorator £100 per day for roughly 8 hours..that’s labour alone..people who are paying £50-£60 per hour..good luck to you.


How much would you charge labour to be in someone’s house for 8 hours then?
I don’t do domestic any more, it’s not worth the clart on. There’s better dough to be made elsewhere. Like I said earlier, if a tradesman is good and slick, has learned a few methods to improve his install- why should he be penalised, for completing in 4 hrs what could take another less- clues up spark 8? Work smarter, not harder
 

Cheesy Feet

Striker
I don’t do domestic any more, it’s not worth the clart on. There’s better dough to be made elsewhere. Like I said earlier, if a tradesman is good and slick, has learned a few methods to improve his install- why should he be penalised, for completing in 4 hrs what could take another less- clues up spark 8? Work smarter, not harder
You’re the 2nd Leccy on this thread to dodge the question..how much per hour in someone’s house?
 

the boot

Midfield
I'd asked for specialised jobs of 8 hours a day over 2 days, not a quick 2 hour job :lol: There may well be quite a few pricey jobs as a full rewire can be a big job of course.

That's the whole point of @Cheesy Feet's posts I think, high hourly labour if you factor in time/material costs etc regardless of overheads etc (I've shown example of driving instructor who has canny overheads). The fact you've now said you will charge a customer £100 an hour labour for a 2 hour job given you quoted £200 profit if it's less than 2 hours work. Obviously those consumer units changes are your prices and looking about, some say it can take up to a day and also do the testing etc yet you can do it in 2 hours max if all goes well? What if it takes all day, is the £500 your max for job regardless of what is involved over 8 hours or would you still keep the £100 an hour rate and give them a bill for £950?
No I’ve said I would charge the £350-£500 for a new consumer unit. If it takes all day three days a week. £350 to £500.
You pay for the job not an hourly rate.
Tell you what Il work for 30 a hour. You look up what you need order it pick it up. Pick me up and drop me off. If anything goes wrong you sort the guarantee. If I need anything extra you go out and get it. Supply my stationary and certificates And I will use your electrical tools. You can’t have it both ways.

Imagine saying to a mechanic it only took you 15 mins for that remap and you charged me £350 that’s £1400 a hour that’s £72k a week you are earning. :lol:
You’re the 2nd Leccy on this thread to dodge the question..how much per hour in someone’s house?
It’s a job price mate. It depends if furniture needs moving or carpets need lifting. How far away it is. I really can’t see your logic.
A mobile hairdresser charges more than a shop one. And not just fuel money. Correct? Is that a rip off?
 
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Makcem Crihs

Goalkeeper
That’s nail on the head mate..hourly rates..I understand where @theboot was coming from with his minimum call out..but after that anyone who’s up in the £50-£60 per hour range doesn’t do jobs for me..like I say in the last couple of years I’ve had a Leccy £27-£30 per hour Boiler lad £23-£25 per hour builder/decorator £100 per day for roughly 8 hours..that’s labour alone..people who are paying £50-£60 per hour..good luck to you.


How much would you charge labour to be in someone’s house for 8 hours then?
You got a boiler fitted for £50?
 

Arthur80

Midfield
The joys of being a spark.

I fucked it off after completing my C&G 2330 level 2&3 8 years ago when I realised I'd fucked up by not getting an apprenticeship, by this point no one was willing to employ an apprentice who had the certs already. Never worked as a spark but have always done bits and jobs for family / friends.

Been thinking about retraining on the new quals and going self employed but tbh I wouldn't have a clue where to start.
Went down the same route as you, did four years at college to get the C&G 2357 passed the AM2 got my ECS card, spent a fortune on tools but can't even give my time away now. Haven't give up but it's a struggle, on that note if any the lads on here are after some free labour I'd appreciate the experience of any job's you can take me on, I'm a good grafter ;)
 

maygo

Winger
You’re the 2nd Leccy on this thread to dodge the question..how much per hour in someone’s house?
It doesn’t work that way mate. Give me a hypothetical example of a job, I’ll give you a price. Then I’ll tell you how long it would take me, compared to the price per hour lads
 

the boot

Midfield
Il work for £16 a hour it will take me 6 month to do your consumer unit I will work Saturdays and sundays. When do I start peeps of the smb. I’m a bargain.
It doesn’t work that way mate. Give me a hypothetical example of a job, I’ll give you a price. Then I’ll tell you how long it would take me, compared to the price per hour lads
Good shout. Tell him me and you will pm him a price and see who gets the job.
 
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the boot

Midfield
Went down the same route as you, did four years at college to get the C&G 2357 passed the AM2 got my ECS card, spent a fortune on tools but can't even give my time away now. Haven't give up but it's a struggle, on that note if any the lads on here are after some free labour I'd appreciate the experience of any job's you can take me on, I'm a good grafter ;)
Get your testing and inspection mate. They will be knocking your door in with offers. I’ve heard they going back to the old way of having testers testing work. The current situation is you just need one lad qualified at your company to get niceic approval as a company. Already happening in certain councils. £55k a year just testing. That’ll do me till I retire.
Where have I said that..magnatec unit..total price £170..unit cost £100..lad was there roughly 3 hours..£70 labour..£23 per hour...local lad fully qualified lives in Roker.
He’s took the piss there like. Hour max that should be. Honestly. 15 drain 30 job 15 fill up while you do paperwork.
 
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maygo

Winger
£55k a year just testing.

He’s took the piss there like. Hour max that should be. Honestly. 15 drain 30 job 15 fill up while you do paperwork.
I’d have some of that like, would be enough for me to consider never going offshore again and risking my neck in a helicopter.

And the second bit- that’s what happens when you try and impose an hourly rate on a skilled worker, he’ll get what he reckons the job is worth anyway by just dragging it out :-D
 

the boot

Midfield
I’d have some of that like, would be enough for me to consider never going offshore again and risking my neck in a helicopter.

And the second bit- that’s what happens when you try and impose an hourly rate on a skilled worker, he’ll get what he reckons the job is worth anyway by just dragging it out :-D
Sparks offshore are the big earners. Have you not asked about there.
 
No I’ve said I would charge the £350-£500 for a new consumer unit. If it takes all day three days a week. £350 to £500.
You pay for the job not an hourly rate.
Tell you what Il work for 30 a hour. You look up what you need order it pick it up. Pick me up and drop me off. If anything goes wrong you sort the guarantee. If I need anything extra you go out and get it. Supply my stationary and certificates And I will use your electrical tools. You can’t have it both ways.

Imagine saying to a mechanic it only took you 15 mins for that remap and you charged me £350 that’s £1400 a hour that’s £72k a week you are earning. :lol:

It’s a job price mate. It depends if furniture needs moving or carpets need lifting. How far away it is. I really can’t see your logic.
A mobile hairdresser charges more than a shop one. And not just fuel money. Correct? Is that a rip off?
So you'd quoted the job and even if it took to a week instead of 2 hours it will be the same price? Aye reetio :lol:

I'm pretty sure most traders will have an idea of how hard/long the job could be, possibly warn of any additional costs and give a rough idea of a price rather just say £350-£500 regardless of how long it takes. Plus surely most customers would like a rough idea of timescale for the work to be done anyway regardless of trying to suss out hourly labour costs for various reasons? If the price went up due to concerns and delays then I'm sure most customers would have no problem paying extra as long as the trader wasn't taking the piss. Like I said making £200 profit on a 2 hour job is a bit extreme but that's the way you'd work and it's clear you get paid well for whatever you do.

In your remapping example, if it was £72K a week then that's working solid for over 51 hours. However working just 1 hour a week doing 4 remaps gives £1400. That's £72,800 a year for 52 hours work so a canny business if you can get it ;) Even so, someone doing a remap in 15 mins isn't someone I'd be paying anyway as it's probably a cowboy hoying in a generic file :lol:

Anyway, I get what you're saying but it seems you're in a higher class of costing than some other traders but good for you :cool: I wish I could have prorated the item I was building and selling since 2011 into a continous 40 hour week. I'd be on over £200 a hour profit though being self employed means working a lot less to get a wage to be happy with and long may it continue.

I’d have some of that like, would be enough for me to consider never going offshore again and risking my neck in a helicopter.

And the second bit- that’s what happens when you try and impose an hourly rate on a skilled worker, he’ll get what he reckons the job is worth anyway by just dragging it out :-D
So basically rip the customer off? The truth is coming out now :lol:
 
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maygo

Winger
So basically rip the customer off? The truth is coming out now :lol:
Like I said earlier, I don’t do domestic work- but I know lads that do, tbh the way it works is they give a price and if it’s accepted the work happens. If it’s not, then it doesn’t. There is no back- and - forth or negotiations, if a customer starts hoying prices about as to what he reckons the job should cost- they won’t work for him, simple as that and he can seek out someone else to work to his figures
 

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