Commuting distance and overtime

[Dave Herbal]

Picture the scenario:
Two people work at the same job. Person A lives next door and has a 2 minute commute. Person B doesn’t and has a 1 hour commute.
A decides they will do 2 hours unpaid overtime several times a week, leaving the house at 7 and returning at 6.
For B to do the same, it would mean leaving the house at 6 and returning at 7.
In your opinion, is it fair to expect both to do the same overtime, when one already has a working day 2 hours longer?

 

[Effrafax]

Yes its fair, move closer you stupid ****

 

[Patch]

I don't think it is and I think most employers would understand that (incoming posts re: unpaid overtime).

 

[Effrafax]

I don't think it is and I think most employers would understand that (incoming posts re: unpaid overtime).

You’re wrong, commute time means nothing

 

[Fred Secrets]

You come up with some weird dilemmas.

But because it's you, they're fantastic.

 

[equuleus]

Person A is possibly a sociopath

 

[Charmless Man]

You come up with some weird dilemmas.

But because it's you, they're fantastic.

I dunno why but I feel like @Frijj would also post something like this.

 

[Fred Secrets]

I dunno why but I feel like @Frijj would also post something like this.

Username suits you!

 

[Patch]

You’re wrong, commute time means nothing

We're talking unpaid overtime here. There is no rule book. I regularly put in unpaid extra time but, over the years, I have found my line managers to be pretty understanding.

 

[TopCat]

Picture the scenario:
Two people work at the same job. Person A lives next door and has a 2 minute commute. Person B doesn’t and has a 1 hour commute.
A decides they will do 2 hours unpaid overtime several times a week, leaving the house at 7 and returning at 6.
For B to do the same, it would mean leaving the house at 6 and returning at 7.
In your opinion, is it fair to expect both to do the same overtime, when one already has a working day 2 hours longer?

Why would anyone do unpaid overtime?

 

[muggboots]

Yes its fair, move closer you stupid ****

He could mebbes put his foot down on the way to work?

 

[42]

I dont think its fair for either to do unpaid OT

 

[Patch]

Why would anyone do unpaid overtime?

A shot in the dark, but maybe their salary reflects the fact that they're expected to go above and beyond at times to get the job done?

 

[Bob Fleming]

Person A should be inviting Person B in for his supper. And possibly a go on his missus before the long drive back home.

 

[TopCat]

A shot in the dark, but maybe their salary reflects the fact that they're expected to go above and beyond at times to get the job done?

Pfffffffffft, been there, done that. Things that are "expected" can go fuck themselves. Unless it is written into their contract then they should do their hours and no more unless paid

I have been on both sides of the fence here, but I always paid my staff for OT.
Different when you are in management of course, I often worked 11 hour days on a 37 hour per week contract

 

[Dave Herbal]

A shot in the dark, but maybe their salary reflects the fact that they're expected to go above and beyond at times to get the job done?

Yeah, let’s say this is the case, like a lot of salaried people. “As and when required by the business” I think is the catch all line.

 

[Kevj]

Picture the scenario:
Two people work at the same job. Person A lives next door and has a 2 minute commute. Person B doesn’t and has a 1 hour commute.
A decides they will do 2 hours unpaid overtime several times a week, leaving the house at 7 and returning at 6.
For B to do the same, it would mean leaving the house at 6 and returning at 7.
In your opinion, is it fair to expect both to do the same overtime, when one already has a working day 2 hours longer?

Why does B feel it necessary to work the same hours as A?

All things considered, B is worse off. But these circumstances are only part of the story.

Person A should be inviting Person B in for his supper. And possibly a go on his missus before the long drive back home.

Pics of your missus before I accept the challenge.

 

[Dave Herbal]

Yes its fair, move closer you stupid ****

So you’d move an hour away from your whole social life just so you could do unpaid overtime?
When I used to get paid for working weekends, I’d always add two hours for travel and they paid it.

 

[look out piano]

Overtime schmovertime .

 

[Frijj]

Person B doesn't have a 'working day' that is two hours longer. Person B may spend two extra hours outside of the house, but those aren't hours you're on the clock for.