Committed to Academy 1 status and a big turn around - Rodwell


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WHAT! players of all ages move across the country to play premier league football every day! your telling me a player in a lower league northern club, if offered a move to a premier league team wouldn't move!
you under estimate the global appeal of the premier league!
You're doing it again. Telling a parent of one of these lads what her and her boy want and what they must have done to engineer a move. You aren't an safc fan, you dont understand the club, you dont understand the topics you're talking about and no one wants you here, can you not just fuck off?
 
How do you know he got rid of him? Maybe he just left? Better offer? Family reasons? Disliked the weather?

If it’s not an ex Eastleigh bod it’ll be an auld marra of JRs. What’s the odds eh?
I don't know anything like the vast majority of people on here. Reading Rodwell's words and looking at the disarray the academy and U18/U23 is in would suggest he was got rid of - its not exactly a bizarre assumption to make.
 
I am not assuming anything. We have a problem with the Academy both in performance and retention. When this poor performance occurs you look at the people at the top setting strategy etc. You also look at other elements like coaching, scouting etc. It appears that scouting/recruitment was addressed when Ged McNamee was appointed. Some on here has suggested that Reid treated his role like a part time job and often missed matches as he lived down south. For me, Rodwell appears to have addressed some of our problems by acknowledging that Reid was not fit for purpose. To me that is a positive. Obviously the key is to appoint someone who is fit for purpose and has vision. Time will tell but this is a positive first step.
certanly reid should have been required to move up, the academy director should be a very visble person in the local area, at schools matches etc almost as much for pr as anything else. not that improtant whether they are at every safc match as thy ddont coach or pick teams.
 
I like the sound of it but do you really believe the current owners think that deeply or plan that far ahead? After all they admit the best kids have left. They want out or say they do. Even if everything went swimingly on the academy front from now on it won’t prove they know what they’re doing itll be because they’ve changed course.

You can take a horse to water... :lol:
 
"properly funded" is not something they can decide, there are rules about the quantity of coaches an academy has to have to be C1, as the status has been renewed, they must, by definition, be funding t properly with the rght number, of qualified coaches.
Sometimes to succeed you need to more than tick the boxes & do the minimum required. Doesn’t get you far...
 
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You're doing it again. Telling a parent of one of these lads what her and her boy want and what they must have done to engineer a move. You aren't an safc fan, you dont understand the club, you dont understand the topics you're talking about and no one wants you here, can you not just fuck off?
the rules of the FA are that an approach from a club cant be rejected. ts not about engneering a move, if a club appraoch a player u16 level the palyer has to be told do they not?
no one under the age of 16 in the UK can sign a legally binding contract of employment.
 
Welcome statement of intention. At least makes it more difficult for them do to terminal damage to the club in this fashion, anyway. That being said there's still a fundamental error of thinking in all this. He wants to get an academy director in who has a plan for retaining talent. Simply put, that position doesn't have the power to do that. It needs a clear pathway to the first team. And that needs a manager who is committed to developing young players. With a big squad of older pros and little appetite for rotation - we currently have virtually the opposite of that. Until Rodwell either appoints someone to oversee the football side holistically - or mandates it himself - he's kidding himself that a new appointee is going to fix the flight from the academy.
This an absolute key point. However, a new Academy Director is a good first step.
 
why? safc werent allowed to kee them, they can leave anytime they want?
you telling me short and bain wouldnt have sold any of them in the champo season?
#the variable, the logic, the maths in the equation, is that in the champo the players had status they dont have that now so are leaving.
Weird how you still post shit even when your spellings having a good day
 
the rules of the FA are that an approach from a club cant be rejected. ts not about engneering a move, if a club appraoch a player u16 level the palyer has to be told do they not?
no one under the age of 16 in the UK can sign a legally binding contract of employment.
Show me these rules please?
 
why? safc werent allowed to kee them, they can leave anytime they want?
you telling me short and bain wouldnt have sold any of them in the champo season?
#the variable, the logic, the maths in the equation, is that in the champo the players had status they dont have that now so are leaving.
“Weren’t allowed to keep them” maybe but they are allowed to try and keep them which you obviously didn’t want to do as you need every penny just to keep the ship afloat until you flog it and to hell with its future seaworthyness.
i doubt it, just today ive called him incompetent and unintelligent.
the problem is the hysterics on here devalue the real critics these owners deserve for how thy have staggeringly mis managed the club. instead of hilighting those, the conspiracy theories roll out,
i doubt it, just today ive called him incompetent and unintelligent.
the problem is the hysterics on here devalue the real critics these owners deserve for how thy have staggeringly mis managed the club. instead of hilighting those, the conspiracy theories roll out,
Eh?
If you’re admitting to calling the poster I was posting about “incompetent and unintelligent” they you’ve just admitted to being Methven.
"properly funded" is not something they can decide, there are rules about the quantity of coaches an academy has to have to be C1, as the status has been renewed, they must, by definition, be funding t properly with the rght number, of qualified coaches.
Not all coaches are equal. Especially wage wise. But you know this already and are deflecting to protect you’re own interests.
 
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Anyone know is Harrison Jones and Harrison Bond will be part of the 1st year scholars this season? I know Jones was on trial at Liverpool but I dont think he went there.
 
Retaining category 1 status is obviously good news but this whole situation shows a lack of a long term on the pitch strategy and no joined up thinking at all.

Selling Mumba because he has 1 year left and doesn't want to sign a new contract is the right thing to do in isolation. But you only have to take a half step back to understand why an 18 year old England youth International who made his debut at this club 2 years ago, might not want to sign a new contract given he was loaned out to South Shields last season, the youth sides started to play him out of his position, the club has 4/5 senior pros playing in his actual position and we have a manager who keeps the same team 9 times out of 10.

We need a coordinated strategy, that sees players from the academy move into the first team. That means a change in recruitment policy and a manager who is pulling in the same direction.
 
They can reject approaches, but these things have a way of getting out. For what it's worth, I think the club are doing the right thing, morally, in allowing clubs to talk to the parents. Where they're wrong is not trying hard enough or fast enough to persuade those same parents that their child's future is best served by staying put.
I agree, but that's not what the owners said.
We also don't have a good enough pathway to the first team.
 
Proof is what is needed until that happens then take it with a grain of salt and while we are in L1 we will be a feeder club to prem club academies
 
I am not assuming anything. We have a problem with the Academy both in performance and retention. When this poor performance occurs you look at the people at the top setting strategy etc. You also look at other elements like coaching, scouting etc. It appears that scouting/recruitment was addressed when Ged McNamee was appointed. Some on here has suggested that Reid treated his role like a part time job and often missed matches as he lived down south. For me, Rodwell appears to have addressed some of our problems by acknowledging that Reid was not fit for purpose. To me that is a positive. Obviously the key is to appoint someone who is fit for purpose and has vision. Time will tell but this is a positive first step.
It's a positive step if he was not fit for purpose, I don't really know one way or the other and suspect that the job in the current conditions will be very difficult for anyone.
 
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