Clean Air Zones


It’s nothing at all to do with clean air. Just a chance for the council to make some money back because central government have cut funding to the bone.
You're right that central government have cut council funding to the bone, and it's a shame that councils have to find new ways to recoup the lost income to pay for services. But surely you must agree that charging people to pollute the air we breathe is a good thing?
 
You're right that central government have cut council funding to the bone, and it's a shame that councils have to find new ways to recoup the lost income to pay for services. But surely you must agree that charging people to pollute the air we breathe is a good thing?
It’s nothing to do with clean air though.
 
It’s nothing to do with clean air though.

Can you prove that, or is this just your suspicion?

Whenever there's any kind of financial disincentive, there's people who say, oh it isn't about [bad thing] it's about making money for the [council/police/government]

I don't work for Newcastle City Council and have nothing to do with their clean air zone. So with no skin in the game, I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have that the clean air zone is "nothing to do with clean air".
 
Can you prove that, or is this just your suspicion?

Whenever there's any kind of financial disincentive, there's people who say, oh it isn't about [bad thing] it's about making money for the [council/police/government]

I don't work for Newcastle City Council and have nothing to do with their clean air zone. So with no skin in the game, I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have that the clean air zone is "nothing to do with clean air".
They'd make far more money from a congestion charge as it would apply to everyone. Newcastle's proposed CAZ doesn't even include private cars, so probably the worst scheme going for revenue raising. It's a start, but it's doing the absolute bare minimum.
 
Suppose when you think about it, if the Newcastle zone ends up becoming really unpopular then businesses will locate themselves outside of it. Could well end up playing into Sunderland's hands when the general public realise the benefits of being nowhere near.
 
Just typed in a few registration numbers of smokey diesels and they are all exempt so it seems a pointless exercise. It's either a clean air zone or it isn't.
Are they really smokey diesels though?
Suppose when you think about it, if the Newcastle zone ends up becoming really unpopular then businesses will locate themselves outside of it. Could well end up playing into Sunderland's hands when the general public realise the benefits of being nowhere near.
Nah they'll just use public transport imo
 
When Newcastle announced this was coming a couple of years ago someone brought up the fact that it’s not about clean air as they’d cut down approx 1000 trees in the previous year alone, they went quiet on that one.
I drove into Brent Cross last week in the Ulez and they must be raking it in down there for £12.50 a go, the place was chocker with cars.
 
Can you prove that, or is this just your suspicion?

Whenever there's any kind of financial disincentive, there's people who say, oh it isn't about [bad thing] it's about making money for the [council/police/government]

I don't work for Newcastle City Council and have nothing to do with their clean air zone. So with no skin in the game, I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have that the clean air zone is "nothing to do with clean air".
Just my suspicion but I bet I’m not far wrong.
 
Noticed the signs are up on the way into Newcastle. Can't help but think it's a total money making scheme, which surely will dry up once everyone moves over to leccy cars in 10 yrs time or so. It'll be interesting to see whether they'll suddenly come up with some wank excuse to then charge all cars going into city centres. 🫤


Private cars are fine. The charge applies to taxis, lorries etc
 
What is your suspicion based upon?
Central government slashing funding to the councils so they feel the need to try and make up this funding another way.

They would have also seen how much money the ulez zones in London are raking in.
 

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