Cirkin back to Spurs?


if we end up with a profit on the deal and having had him in a team that got promoted..its a very good deal for safc..
Sure, but I guess you have to also compare it to owning the player in the normal way (particularly as that is how most people see it) where we'd have that plus extra profit/control over whether he goes or stays, and also consider that we took that risk that the deal might be a dud.

I'm not slagging off the deal but it almost feels like a third type of ownership between loan and permanent
 
Do you think the club would consider making them an offer. I.e. If they intend to sell him on at a profit

Be a bit hard to take losing a player like him.
 
Be a queer footballer/bloke that would allowed himself to be pimped about like that .
Agree
So much drivel

would need to pay the agent fee of around 5-10%, signing on fee of 10-15% and many other caveats around a deal like that to make it pointless.

Also, he couldn’t play for them as there is a rule around how many teams a player can play for in a season iirc

And finally, why on Earth would the player even consider such a deal? The amount of negotiating that goes into one deal is insane, never mind two.
Yep, agree with most of that. The poster asked how/why it would work so I outlined it
 
You're suggesting they've developed enough to attract bids from bigger clubs man. They haven't been here five minutes. We're buying extremely young players, taking a gamble. It'll be years, not weeks and a handful of games before bigger clubs than us become interested.
Like I said it all about opinions, they might finish up at Hartlepool yet
 
Has anyone ever noticed that Alan Nixon never ‘breaks’ any good news about Sunderland?

If that was the case, it would have to in the summer
Couldn't Spurs buy him back and then resell him in the January transfer window?

I wonder if that might lead to the payment of 2 lots of VAT. If so, that could lead to the deal(s) being unattractive though. Possibly more agents fees too if there's two transfers.
 
Sure, but I guess you have to also compare it to owning the player in the normal way (particularly as that is how most people see it) where we'd have that plus extra profit/control over whether he goes or stays, and also consider that we took that risk that the deal might be a dud.

I'm not slagging off the deal but it almost feels like a third type of ownership between loan and permanent
well yes i agree with you reaally-it depends on the precise nature of the deal of course..but i woukd make the point that in reality if a champions league club wants any of our players they will always get them..and we are likely going to come out of any deal with spurs considerably ahead in this case
Couldn't Spurs buy him back and then resell him in the January transfer window?

I wonder if that might lead to the payment of 2 lots of VAT. If so, that could lead to the deal(s) being unattractive though. Possibly more agents fees too if there's two transfers.
isnt there some condition that a player cant be registered with more than x number of clubs in a season?
 
well yes i agree with you reaally-it depends on the precise nature of the deal of course..but i woukd make the point that in reality if a champions league club wants any of our players they will always get them..and we are likely going to come out of any deal with spurs considerably ahead in this case

isnt there some condition that a player cant be registered with more than x number of clubs in a season?
A quick look indicates that its 3 clubs per season so it might be okay. There's also something about loans for young players but I couldn't find any more details.
 
Couldn't Spurs buy him back and then resell him in the January transfer window?

I wonder if that might lead to the payment of 2 lots of VAT. If so, that could lead to the deal(s) being unattractive though. Possibly more agents fees too if there's two transfers.

A key consideration is that the player is not obligated to sign for anybody and move down the country because the two clubs have an agreement in principle, ask yourself if the player might wish to move to London only to sign with Spurs who intend to ship him out again in the next window? Unless there is a massive financial windfall for the lad, I doubt he'd be happy to basically suspend his career and life for 6 months whilst Spurs make money off him.
 
I can't see it tbh. Can't see him wanting to go there to be 5th choice or whatever it'll be. He's destined for bigger things, just can't see him going back there.
 
6 mil for him and alese to replace him. It’s not the end of the world.
I agree, also I think it was good business in league 1, as you don’t have much negotiation power when you’re vying for promotion and need quality players. He helped us get promoted, if we sell him for a 5m profit 2 years later it’s not the end of the world.

If he gets back into the team and keeps his standards up, he’ll likely be worth 8-12m. Will be really interesting to see when a prem club comes calling for our best players if we can hold out for big fees. We’ve done the first part very well which is acquiring young talented assets on long contracts for cheap, it’s a different challenge extracting maximum value for them
 

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