I think it might be up there with the Italian fella, just not as drawn out.Is this the most on-off transfer we've ever had? (Excluding the Italian fella)
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I think it might be up there with the Italian fella, just not as drawn out.Is this the most on-off transfer we've ever had? (Excluding the Italian fella)
Is this the most on-off transfer we've ever had? (Excluding the Italian fella)
I'm disagreeing with your original post on this thread. We've established that it was total shite, as there isn't a single club in the league who had finished all their transfer business by season start. You changed the parameters then saying that it wasn't that the business was finished, it's that it had barely begun. Again, we've shown that to be wrong.
While we're at it, I'll disagree with your second post. I think there'll be new players arriving and that Congerton and Advocaat will still be here next Wednesday. We'll see who's right in a weeks time.
You then started trying to put words in my mouth by asking if I was claiming that everything in the Sunderland camp was rosy. Nobody is claiming that, me included.
If we're doing silly 70s sitcom analogies then you need to stop shouting WE'RE DOOMED! WE'RE DOOMED! as you're making us all look silly.
That is this place summed up succinctly if a little ham fisted.How tedious this all is
I know who I'd chooseTalk sport just said he will choose today between us and Everton. This is supposed to have come directly from his agent.
I know who I'd choose
True. Not convinced he would get in ahead of Barkley on current form. Depends how bad we appear to him (and also how much he thinks he can improve us)He needs first team football. He won't get that at Everton, but he'll probably think he will.
*sigh*
My subsequent posts have cleared up any confusion, no? Now we’ve established what you think of my opinions (sort of), what about yours?
Can I infer that you’re broadly happy with our business, or at least optimistic about what’s to come? If so, may I ask why? Is your satisfaction about our incomings (inc. 3 defenders) not shaken by the 10 goals we’ve shipped to Leicester, Norwich and Exeter. If we fail to sign anyone of note this window, will you reserve judgement to the end of the next? How long term a project is this, in your view? At what point would you feel that criticism is permitted?
You seem to think that pessimism is illogical in our current predicament. I’m genuinely interested to find our what you can see that I cannot.
Got to hope he has a good relationship with Dick, it's our only hope of getting him.I know who I'd choose
I knew a girl who had a good relationship with Dick. We'll, she did when we're going out anyway.....not that I knew anything about it til afterwardsGot to hope he has a good relationship with Dick, it's our only hope of getting him.
I'm sure you know what you mean !I knew a girl who had a good relationship with Dick. We'll, she did when we're going out anyway.....not that I knew anything about it til afterwards
Happy? 'Realistic' is probably a better word.
We just aren't going to throw another £50m at the problem, it's as simple as that. The Chairman has propped the club up to the tune of £20m a year, it has to stop. I think the most amazing thing about modern football is the massive sense of entitlement that fans have about money. It baffles me that fans can't accept that a club can only spend what it earns: But, but, but, he's a billionaire, another £100m is nothing to him - these types of posts are everywhere on this message board, it's absolutely astonishing.
Right, so now we judge our business on the money we have to spend. I'm supremely confident about Lens and M'Vila who are both cracking players, Kaboul has been a good Premier League defender so if his knee holds up he'll be fine, I'm not particulary sold on Coates but the Manager seems to rate him, Matthews is a typical cheap gamble that all clubs at our level make. For the money we've spent we've done very well this window. It's also been a very typical window for a Premier League club, 5 in before the season starts and a couple more approaching deadline is perfectly fine, despite what you claim.
So, to the squad as a whole. Do the little game I set the other poster on this thread. If you make a best XI combined of us and one other side expected to finish in the bottom half, we'll be well represented in it. The point I'm trying to illustrate here is that our team is not that bad. Yes we lack in certain areas, but so does every other team around us. This is true this season, it was last season, it will be next season and every other season in the future - unless we invest hundreds of millions trying to get to the next level.
I'm putting the defensive shambles of the first two games (didn't see Swansea or Exeter so can't comment) firmly at the feet of the Manager and the players. There is no way that group of players should have had the ball passed round them like that, it can only be organisation and tactics. I don't think it will be as bad again.
Pessimism is not a problem. The problem I have is the complete over-the-top doom ridden bollocks that is all over this message board. Have look back on the SMB, it was the same last year, the year before and the year before. It's always the same narrative: We're doomed, we need to spend £20m/50m/100m on another 4/8/20 players, we're definitely going down this year, just look at Southampton/Swansea/Stoke to see how it's done, the Chairman is crook, the manager needs to go, the players are shit......... If you believe the SMB we've definitely been relegated for the past 3 years, yet we still seem to be here.
Happy? 'Realistic' is probably a better word.
We just aren't going to throw another £50m at the problem, it's as simple as that. The Chairman has propped the club up to the tune of £20m a year, it has to stop. I think the most amazing thing about modern football is the massive sense of entitlement that fans have about money. It baffles me that fans can't accept that a club can only spend what it earns: But, but, but, he's a billionaire, another £100m is nothing to him - these types of posts are everywhere on this message board, it's absolutely astonishing.
Right, so now we judge our business on the money we have to spend. I'm supremely confident about Lens and M'Vila who are both cracking players, Kaboul has been a good Premier League defender so if his knee holds up he'll be fine, I'm not particulary sold on Coates but the Manager seems to rate him, Matthews is a typical cheap gamble that all clubs at our level make. For the money we've spent we've done very well this window. It's also been a very typical window for a Premier League club, 5 in before the season starts and a couple more approaching deadline is perfectly fine, despite what you claim.
So, to the squad as a whole. Do the little game I set the other poster on this thread. If you make a best XI combined of us and one other side expected to finish in the bottom half, we'll be well represented in it. The point I'm trying to illustrate here is that our team is not that bad. Yes we lack in certain areas, but so does every other team around us. This is true this season, it was last season, it will be next season and every other season in the future - unless we invest hundreds of millions trying to get to the next level.
I'm putting the defensive shambles of the first two games (didn't see Swansea or Exeter so can't comment) firmly at the feet of the Manager and the players. There is no way that group of players should have had the ball passed round them like that, it can only be organisation and tactics. I don't think it will be as bad again.
Pessimism is not a problem. The problem I have is the complete over-the-top doom ridden bollocks that is all over this message board. Have look back on the SMB, it was the same last year, the year before and the year before. It's always the same narrative: We're doomed, we need to spend £20m/50m/100m on another 4/8/20 players, we're definitely going down this year, just look at Southampton/Swansea/Stoke to see how it's done, the Chairman is crook, the manager needs to go, the players are shit......... If you believe the SMB we've definitely been relegated for the past 3 years, yet we still seem to be here.
Happy? 'Realistic' is probably a better word.
We just aren't going to throw another £50m at the problem, it's as simple as that. The Chairman has propped the club up to the tune of £20m a year, it has to stop. I think the most amazing thing about modern football is the massive sense of entitlement that fans have about money. It baffles me that fans can't accept that a club can only spend what it earns: But, but, but, he's a billionaire, another £100m is nothing to him - these types of posts are everywhere on this message board, it's absolutely astonishing.
Right, so now we judge our business on the money we have to spend. I'm supremely confident about Lens and M'Vila who are both cracking players, Kaboul has been a good Premier League defender so if his knee holds up he'll be fine, I'm not particulary sold on Coates but the Manager seems to rate him, Matthews is a typical cheap gamble that all clubs at our level make. For the money we've spent we've done very well this window. It's also been a very typical window for a Premier League club, 5 in before the season starts and a couple more approaching deadline is perfectly fine, despite what you claim.
So, to the squad as a whole. Do the little game I set the other poster on this thread. If you make a best XI combined of us and one other side expected to finish in the bottom half, we'll be well represented in it. The point I'm trying to illustrate here is that our team is not that bad. Yes we lack in certain areas, but so does every other team around us. This is true this season, it was last season, it will be next season and every other season in the future - unless we invest hundreds of millions trying to get to the next level.
I'm putting the defensive shambles of the first two games (didn't see Swansea or Exeter so can't comment) firmly at the feet of the Manager and the players. There is no way that group of players should have had the ball passed round them like that, it can only be organisation and tactics. I don't think it will be as bad again.
Pessimism is not a problem. The problem I have is the complete over-the-top doom ridden bollocks that is all over this message board. Have look back on the SMB, it was the same last year, the year before and the year before. It's always the same narrative: We're doomed, we need to spend £20m/50m/100m on another 4/8/20 players, we're definitely going down this year, just look at Southampton/Swansea/Stoke to see how it's done, the Chairman is crook, the manager needs to go, the players are shit......... If you believe the SMB we've definitely been relegated for the past 3 years, yet we still seem to be here.
Everton haven't been mentioned by his agent !?Talk sport just said he will choose today between us and Everton. This is supposed to have come directly from his agent.
On Talksports transfer round up they said his agent had said he will choose between us and Everton today. TheEverton haven't been mentioned by his agent !?![]()
Only by the media, Everton always seems to be a lazy made up link.Everton haven't been mentioned by his agent !?![]()