Chaotic trains


The announcement you hear will be from the conductor. As a driver I've got a bit more to worry about than if Dave and Karen are a bit squished coz someone can't be bothered to move. It's hardly being part of the problem. You've got a brain I'm assuming just ask people to move down. If I'm working an 8 carriage train and the conductor is at the back and can't get thru because it's busy it's not their fault is it. Cmom man it's clear some passengers coz the issues themselves and some do so deliberately.

The announcement you hear will be from the conductor. As a driver I've got a bit more to worry about than if Dave and Karen are a bit squished coz someone can't be bothered to move. It's hardly being part of the problem. You've got a brain I'm assuming just ask people to move down. If I'm working an 8 carriage train and the conductor is at the back and can't get thru because it's busy it's not their fault is it. Cmom man it's clear some passengers coz the issues themselves and some do so deliberately.

It's not a conductor making announcements on Metro on the rare occasion drivers bother to intervene.

However, I said it is passengers causing the issues and it is especially problematic on trains in this region in my own experience. I didn't intend to get the train. Several people who couldn't and could have, did intend to get it. The train I'm talking about was sat for several minutes, with nobody working for the railways - platform staff, the driver, the conductor, doing a single thing to try and do anything the conductor, train manager, whoever, got on and off a couple of times.

Maybe you do have a lot to do when your trains can't move for several minutes whilst stuck on a platform due to idiots, you know what you're doing and I don't in that time.

You've made a strawman of what I said though. People being a bit tight is different to passengers being left on a platform due to inertia, incompetence and not attempting to solve a problem that could have been easily resolved.
 
It's not a conductor making announcements on Metro on the rare occasion drivers bother to intervene.

However, I said it is passengers causing the issues and it is especially problematic on trains in this region in my own experience. I didn't intend to get the train. Several people who couldn't and could have, did intend to get it. The train I'm talking about was sat for several minutes, with nobody working for the railways - platform staff, the driver, the conductor, doing a single thing to try and do anything the conductor, train manager, whoever, got on and off a couple of times.

Maybe you do have a lot to do when your trains can't move for several minutes whilst stuck on a platform due to idiots, you know what you're doing and I don't in that time.

You've made a strawman of what I said though. People being a bit tight is different to passengers being left on a platform due to inertia, incompetence and not attempting to solve a problem that could have been easily resolved.
Gonna stop you in your tracks (pun intended) with your first sentence here marra. Metros aren't trains!!!! End of argument
 
Semantics don't change the fact that they are used by passengers in exactly the same way with exactly the same crowd control issues.
You can't compare the two. Metro is a similar form of transport that uses the same gauge as a train but that's it. Would you compare Blackpool trams to inter city 100mph plus services?? They use the same gauge so in your eyes it must be the same no???
 
Semantics don't change the fact that they are used by passengers in exactly the same way with exactly the same crowd control issues.
Disagree, I've drove the metro and am now on mainline, it's a different way of working. On the Metro you do have to be more conscious of it as you're working by yourself and of course it's much smaller compared to having 5-10 coaches which are the responsibility of the guards/train managers/dispatch staff to manage crowd control
 
Must just be lucky or the routes I use must be good as I very rarely have any issues, despite the government's determination to destroy our public transport network.

Buses on the other hand...
 
Booked Friday for LNER Newcastle to Edinburgh outbound yesterday returning today. Both trains on time, no issues either way. They can get it right.
It’s fair to say you only hear about trains when they’re not working right. I’m sure the vast majority arrive when and where expected. Having said that I hosted a business dinner in Newcastle tonight and only 4 of the expected 8 could make it, the others were stuck in Darlington
 
My ScotRail train is class. Get it every day, reliable and always on time or thereabouts. 40 minute trip to work and back and dirt cheap.
 
It’s fair to say you only hear about trains when they’re not working right. I’m sure the vast majority arrive when and where expected. Having said that I hosted a business dinner in Newcastle tonight and only 4 of the expected 8 could make it, the others were stuck in Darlington
Although problems are “rare” (though not rare enough), we do get to, quite rightly, hear about them. My metro commuting days appear to be over and as bad a reputation as that has id say that the vast majority of my journeys were on time. Really can’t remember being late for work very often.
 

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