chrismisterx
Winger
I too find it really interesting and I don't follow the rule its as simple as calories in calories out for weight loss and I also believe any diet will work for weight loss, its what happens after the diet ends that matters and if a diet has to end its not right, should be a life style change. Its one of the topics where there is too much info out there and no idea whats right or wrong as the science is struggling to understand it all, which is why advice changes week to week or month to month. I do think your right that some people react very different to different types of foods. Interesting thought is you can have someone smoke and have no ill effects and live a long life, doesn't mean that was healthy, pretty much think the same with regards food. Some foods might seem fine but effect some people badly and not effect others at all.
I have done an Elimination diet with just spuds after reading Penn's book "presto" it works, resistance starch is a thing that's great for hunger control. You hit the nail on the head with regards not knowing what the long term effects of different ways of eating has, its why I spent some time looking to our past for ideas, some surprising research.
Tons of research out there to back up many different theories, so have to be careful from grains causing inflammation of the heart to constant change of advice with regards healthly fats or bad fats.
theres been a study in Africa and down under on large herds of cattle allowed to roam free, Regenerative Agriculture I think is the buzz word, we are talking groups of 1000's, it found that when the cattle was allowed to roam in massive herds ( think the size of buffalo herds of the past ) it healed the soil, stopped soil erosion and changed the landscape back to plains. Stopped drought effects also Interesting stuff, theres a ted talk about it
The problem is with regards the world, theres just too many of us, that's the elephant in the room, also look at toilets, the amount of water wasted to remove our waste is insane, we spend tons of energy and massive amounts of water just to move our crap, has to be a better way, the plasma toilets look interesting, but not sure I could stick my arse over one lol.
All factory farming is evil, plant or animal based, you see the effects very easy with animal farming but the damage also done with massive farming of plants is just as scary, I was reading a report about how now they think bio fuel could be more damaging to our health and the plant than first thought, the damage done bring plant based foods that are out of season is crazy, we need a complete rethink about our food systems, but that's a different subject.
I have kept chickens free range on my allotment and when left to roam with some grains added, plus waste greens you get quite a few eggs all year round, I have 20 hens and was avg a dozen eggs a day the chickens I had did 300 eggs each a year.
With regards fibre great studies down under who argue fibre is bad for your gut, people who suffer with terrible bowl problems tend to get worse when adding more fibre but when given a fibre free diet are cured. Dr. Paul Mason I think was running the studies you can find some of his talks online where he explains his findings.
Like I said so interesting and so confusing at times, I think we can all agree so long as you keep away from processed foods, you should be healthier.
I'm largely plant based but neither vegan nor vegetarian. I probably eat meat 10 times a year (I haven't at all this year yet) and very little dairy, but I do eat a lot of eggs.
Last Christmas I ate a lot of meat in a short space of time and my farts and toilet behaviours were absolutely nasty - I can't say it was from protein because I eat loads of it in legumes and lentils every day usually. These absolutely lifting farts is what has put me off eating meat more if nothing else. Day to day I could compete for Britain in the Toilet Olympics - 3-4 shits a day is fairly normal - but (speaking freely) it just shoots out and isn't half as horrible.
Anyway!
Yup, its to do with the Bactria in the gut, when plant based you gain the Bactria to break down plant based stuff and if you swap to meat you have a hell of a time adapting same the other way around. With meat ( more fats ) it takes a bit for your body to start producing the enzymes for breaking the fat down, which leads to smelly and bad toliet time, but after that its smell free. ( was for me at least )
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