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SAFC2403 said:
Loads of other kids in professional sport don’t get into that shite.


Don’t get me wrong I’ve dabbled in the past but then again I never got drug tested.
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No body is arguing that, he is a silly boy I would hope however he can learn and comeback and not waste his talent
 

Aside from being a professional sportsman and squandering an opportunity that thousands would love, he has also broken a fairly serious law; and, by the sounds of things, on more than one occasion. But nowt will happen on that front.

If the law authorities actually took drug use seriously, and there were some proper deterrents in place, then this type of thing would be reduced drastically amongst daft young uns who see it as a social norm nowadays and are fully aware that there will be virtually no consequences should they be caught.

The whole 'support them through it' thing is far too wishy washy as well. I know plenty of people who aren't hooked, they have it because they want it and can make the decision to not have it quite easily when they don't want it; much like alcohol with the vast majority of people who drink. For some reason as soon drugs are involved, addiction tends to be automatically applied to the situation.

This type of thing will become more and more common in sport in the near future like.
 
mackem in milan said:
''Durham will honour the new two-year contract they agreed with the 20-year-old last month. . . The Journal understands they were not informed of his first transgression, as per the protocol.' Depending on the details could the club get some compensation? Were they aware of all the information when negotiating the contract? I know it's stupid of him but addiction doesn't make you act rationally, I hope this is a wake up a call and he takes the chance to sort himself out.
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If FTECB didn't inform Durham about the first transgression, Beefy wants to be grabbing that cûnt Groves by the throat until he agrees to wipe some of the debt off as compensation.

I don't think it's an addiction like, probably more likely that he enjoys a line of Charlie when he's with his mates. More peer pressure and bravado than addict.

Twisted said:
i guess maybe it comes into the realms of bringing the sport into disrepute.

if we lived in a confidential world that's one thing but if the results of drugs tests came out in public and it became publically known that sportsman A was bang into drug B and they did nowt it may be seem as condoning it or at least acceptance and whilst it is illegal i don't see how they can do that.
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Depends what the drug is really, although seeing how we live in a county where the police have began to take a very liberal view on certain drugs, it could be argued that it's wrong of him to be suspended - after all, if the police aren't arsed.........
 
brandon said:
If FTECB didn't inform Durham about the first transgression, Beefy wants to be grabbing that cûnt Groves by the throat until he agrees to wipe some of the debt off as compensation.

I don't think it's an addiction like, probably more likely that he enjoys a line of Charlie when he's with his mates. More peer pressure and bravado than addict.



Depends what the drug is really, although seeing how we live in a county where the police have began to take a very liberal view on certain drugs, it could be argued that it's wrong of him to be suspended - after all, if the police aren't arsed.........
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I wonder who his mates are,cricketers normally knock around together. The club to me appear to have been very slack with this especially after the 2nd failed test and suspension. Vic Carlton made a few comments on here about how poor his batting has been and I agreed he has looked unfocused. Now we probably know why.
Lets hope the club have a full investigation into this.
 
Not excusing him and hope he gets the help he needs to come back clean and perform for Durham in 18 months time (maybe after a solid few months in aid for game time once playing ban is up) but surely he cannot be the only player that has taken a recreational drug? As MrJardine says, unlucky/daft enough to get caught, but i imagine he's in the majority rather than minority...
 
You're a long time retired from professional cricket, playing in the local leagues for a few quid, wondering what might have been. Someone needs to have a word with Jack and spell out what is at stake if he doesn't get his head sorted.
 
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Thought there were a few interesting comments there re earlier suspension (think i read that right) and the club being concerned earlier in year
 
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Thought there were a few interesting comments there re earlier suspension (think i read that right) and the club being concerned earlier in year
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Cheers for that. Worrying like. I'd say get him overseas away from his mates
 
brandon said:
If FTECB didn't inform Durham about the first transgression, Beefy wants to be grabbing that cûnt Groves by the throat until he agrees to wipe some of the debt off as compensation.

I don't think it's an addiction like, probably more likely that he enjoys a line of Charlie when he's with his mates. More peer pressure and bravado than addict.



Depends what the drug is really, although seeing how we live in a county where the police have began to take a very liberal view on certain drugs, it could be argued that it's wrong of him to be suspended - after all, if the police aren't arsed.........
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Haway, Brandon man, not an addiction, when he's failed drug tests three times within a year!! What sort of person are you when you demonstrate "insights" such as this? You haven't a clue whether Burnham is an addict or not, although the known facts suggest that he is.
Have you the slightest idea how harmful and damaging cocaine is to the human body and how easy it is the become addicted? And all you seem to be concerned about is obtaining "compensation" from the ECB for an entirely unrelated matter. You really are an idiot.
 
New Young Ebor said:
Haway, Brandon man, not an addiction, when he's failed drug tests three times within a year!! What sort of person are you when you demonstrate "insights" such as this? You haven't a clue whether Burnham is an addict or not, although the known facts suggest that he is.
Have you the slightest idea how harmful and damaging cocaine is to the human body and how easy it is the become addicted? And all you seem to be concerned about is obtaining "compensation" from the ECB for an entirely unrelated matter. You really are an idiot.
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What known facts suggest he's an addict?
 
mackem in milan said:
The fact that he has tested positively three times and didn't stop knowing the possible damage to his career. The club moved him to a different house to get away from his old crowd and he still didn't stop.
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Is that proof of addiction?

It's a term thrown round willy nilly. An addiction (though the existence of 'addiction' itself is an ongoing controversial debate) suggests dependency and an inability to function without a substance.

Testing positive three times and your employers encouraging a move away from a particular crowd because they like to dabble isn't anywhere near proof of 'addiction'.

Professional sports clubs would take issue with an employee if they were to get pissed out of their skulls every weekend but they wouldn't necessarily be alcoholics.
 
The Sheepfolds End said:
Is that proof of addiction?

It's a term thrown round willy nilly. An addiction (though the existence of 'addiction' itself is an ongoing controversial debate) suggests dependency and an inability to function without a substance.

Testing positive three times and your employers encouraging a move away from a particular crowd because they like to dabble isn't anywhere near proof of 'addiction'.

Professional sports clubs would take issue with an employee if they were to get pissed out of their skulls every weekend but they wouldn't necessarily be alcoholics.
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It's not proof but it does support the argument IMO. A lot of it comes down to how you define addiction. To me it's when something is causing problems in your life and you want to stop but can't. You say it's an inability to function but the question is what level of functioning do you need to fall below to become an addict. He now can't function as a cricketer in England for a year, and we don't know how this and other aspects of his lifestyle have affected his game. It doesn't really matter though if he is classed as addicted or not, this is an opportunity to sort himself out and I hope he takes it.
 
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