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He hasn't played Ji even when he hasn't travelled. Noble may or may not make it but Bruce should have a good idea by now.

I wasn't happy that he moved Richardson on Saturday he had been improving at left back and we really need a settled back four and we aren't going to gel without giving players a chance to build partnerships.

Similiarly with the central midfield position he needs to make a decision and go with it. The fact is he signed two central midfield players and at the moment he isn't picking them ahead of two that were already here. I agree the signing of Gardner looks like it could be a costly mistake, had that £6m been spent on a good central midfield player we would look a much better side.

The problem is that we still need more than 2 or 3 players. Bendtner will go back so we will need two forwards, a left winger, a central midfielder and we have no cover defensively. I have concerns over what happens when Brown or Turner gets injured.

Not to worry, we've got Anton to.. oh, wait. Who is next in line at CB while Bramble is out of the picture?

We need to play 4-4-2, every game, and a settled team whever possible. That doesnt include Sess up front. Even if we play Ji, Noble or me up front, that's the only system where we ever play well. Bendtner can hold the ball up and wait for a run all day, cos our midfield wont do it. He needs a strike partner. Even if Ji or Noble or Whickham aren't it yet, fine. They aren't going to get better from the odd ten minutes here and there anyway. Bruce needs to grow a pair and put the faith in the players he's bought. Oh, and learn how to make a decent tactical change now and again.
 
His CM pairing i think is the biggest issue that we've got at the minute, he obviously wants Catts in (which i do, thoguht he had a really good game agaisnt Fulham), but then it's who to play alongside him. I think he wanted it to be Gardner, but he's not really stepped up to teh plate yet and i'm worried he never will.

Like an earlier poster said, as long as we're not dicing with relegation then i'm happy to write this year off as a squad re-building year and use the Jan and Summer to bring in just 2 maybe 3 tops quality players! No more of this 10 in 10 out that was needed in previous years because of how thin and poor our squad was.

2 or 3? Bendtner isn't ours so he'll need replacing. If Gyan isn't coming back he'll need replacing. What happens when Sess or Larsson are injured/suspended? Shift Sess/Richardson/Larsson about? We need a left winger. There's your 2 or 3 there.

What about the defence? If anything happens to any of them we're knackered. We need a centre half or 2 and cover (or even 1st choice) for left back who is actually left footed and doesn't have to cut back and slow everything down everytime he gets forward. There's another 2 or 3 although I'm probably being a little greedy re left back. That's about 4-6 new players. After 9 or 10 over the Summer? ffs.

All just my opinion of course. I'm just clinging to the hope that we can get the same 11 players, whoever they are, on the pitch playing in the same position week in week out because it seems that if anyone is missing one week we have to change the whole formation because we can't replace him with a like-for-like player.
 
Yeah, I don't think we're far away at all.

And, you can't just buy your way out of a problem unless you're Man City and the like, so that means building.

In terms of the building, with the likes of Wes Brown, Sess, Craig Gordon, Catts - we have some players there who do their jobs very well. It's amssive step up from the players we were watching 5 years back.

Like you say, one or two quality additions and a settled side (not having loan players etc), and we'd be onto something.

I'm quite happy to write this season off as a new players bedding in season.

I'm f***ing not.

I want us to go out and win every game and not piss fart about with excuse after excuse.
 
2 or 3? Bendtner isn't ours so he'll need replacing. If Gyan isn't coming back he'll need replacing. What happens when Sess or Larsson are injured/suspended? Shift Sess/Richardson/Larsson about? We need a left winger. There's your 2 or 3 there.

What about the defence? If anything happens to any of them we're knackered. We need a centre half or 2 and cover (or even 1st choice) for left back who is actually left footed and doesn't have to cut back and slow everything down everytime he gets forward. There's another 2 or 3 although I'm probably being a little greedy re left back. That's about 4-6 new players. After 9 or 10 over the Summer? ffs.

All just my opinion of course. I'm just clinging to the hope that we can get the same 11 players, whoever they are, on the pitch playing in the same position week in week out because it seems that if anyone is missing one week we have to change the whole formation because we can't replace him with a like-for-like player.

The last thing we need is another 10 players in, that's the whole reason the season hasn't started the way we'd like, cos players need time to settle in.

At the end of the day, we have the strongest squad we've ever had and that is down to Bruce, he has done it whilst still managing to balance the books. Yes he's bought some flops, Da Silva, Riveros, Angeleri etc, but he's also brought us some of the best players i've ever seen in my lifetime. Sess, Gyan, Brown, Bent, OK we couldn't hold onto some of them, but thats what happens when you're not a big club.

All i have seen season upon season is progress and until this season is over, then i'm still going to be optimistic of progressing yet again.

At the minute our only real problem is the lack of options up front, but come Christmas tiem when Wickham and Campbell are back playing along with whoever he brings in, in Jan, then i'll be very happy with our squadm despite what people say and that will be down to Bruce!

I just don't understand how people can't see the progress we're making and how it's all about small steps!
 
The last thing we need is another 10 players in, that's the whole reason the season hasn't started the way we'd like, cos players need time to settle in.

At the end of the day, we have the strongest squad we've ever had and that is down to Bruce, he has done it whilst still managing to balance the books. Yes he's bought some flops, Da Silva, Riveros, Angeleri etc, but he's also brought us some of the best players i've ever seen in my lifetime. Sess, Gyan, Brown, Bent, OK we couldn't hold onto some of them, but thats what happens when you're not a big club.

All i have seen season upon season is progress and until this season is over, then i'm still going to be optimistic of progressing yet again.

At the minute our only real problem is the lack of options up front, but come Christmas tiem when Wickham and Campbell are back playing along with whoever he brings in, in Jan, then i'll be very happy with our squadm despite what people say and that will be down to Bruce!

I just don't understand how people can't see the progress we're making and how it's all about small steps!

Over the last 26 games we have won 5, drew 6 and lost 15. That is 21 points out of a possible 78.

Is that what you call progress ?
 
Over the last 26 games we have won 5, drew 6 and lost 15. That is 21 points out of a possible 78.

Is that what you call progress ?

The last 12 games we've picked up 11 points - Averaging 0.916 points per game

The 14 games before that we picked up 10 points - Averaging 0.714 points per game

I'm no mathmetician, but yes i see that as progress?
 
The last 12 games we've picked up 11 points - Averaging 0.916 points per game

The 14 games before that we picked up 10 points - Averaging 0.714 points per game

I'm no mathmetician, but yes i see that as progress?

Based on your theory then the above statistics seem like relegation form
 
We don't have a single left sided midfielder in the entire squad, alternate between a midfielder and a right back to play at left back, then shift Richardson about just as he's starting to hit form there, the only fit strikers we actually own have yet to make a single start in English football between them, and our options in defence beyond Turner and Brown consist of two youngsters with 1 minute or senior football between them or Bramble who is on bail following sexual assault charges.

Strongest squad we've ever had? Are you taking the piss?
 
Based on your theory then the above statistics seem like relegation form

It's not really my theory i was jsut responding to the daft post before hand.

You could have said after the Bolton and Villa game 4 points in 2 games, that's European form, maybe even Champs league. That's why i'm not bothered about last season and the bad run we had, what club wouldn't playing with no forwards. I'm jsut going off the matches this season and although the results haven't been great, i really think the performances have been slowly improving week on week.

After Bolton and Villa (the only games we've gone 4-4-2) everyone thoguht we'd turned the corner a bizarre injury though has fucked that up and now everyone is out for Bruce's head again. Had we had Wickahm still fit, i'm certain we would have beat Fulham and we'd be sitting in the top ten, with 7 points from our last 4 matches.

We've jsut been freakishly unlucky with injuries and until Bruce has the chance to play a full strength team for a few weeks, only then we will see exactly what sort of team he's built.

Look at Newcastle they were able to go 10 matches or so without having to chance their team, when was hte last time we ever had that option!

We don't have a single left sided midfielder in the entire squad, alternate between a midfielder and a right back to play at left back, then shift Richardson about just as he's starting to hit form there, the only fit strikers we actually own have yet to make a single start in English football between them, and our options in defence beyond Turner and Brown consist of two youngsters with 1 minute or senior football between them or Bramble who is on bail following sexual assault charges.

Strongest squad we've ever had? Are you taking the piss?

Ok then in the last few seasons in the Prem which of our squads have been better?

The one with McShane and Halford at the back?

How about Whitehead, Lawrence and Edwards in Midfield?

Even last season when we were doing so well, the majority of that squad were on loan and not our players.

Instead of Bendtner and Wickham did you prefer Murphy and Chopra?

FFS man we've made massive progress!
 
It's not really my theory i was jsut responding to the daft post before hand.

You could have said after the Bolton and Villa game 4 points in 2 games, that's European form, maybe even Champs league. That's why i'm not bothered about last season and the bad run we had, what club wouldn't playing with no forwards. I'm jsut going off the matches this season and although the results haven't been great, i really think the performances have been slowly improving week on week.

After Bolton and Villa (the only games we've gone 4-4-2) everyone thoguht we'd turned the corner a bizarre injury though has fucked that up and now everyone is out for Bruce's head again. Had we had Wickahm still fit, i'm certain we would have beat Fulham and we'd be sitting in the top ten, with 7 points from our last 4 matches.

We've jsut been freakishly unlucky with injuries and until Bruce has the chance to play a full strength team for a few weeks, only then we will see exactly what sort of team he's built.

Look at Newcastle they were able to go 10 matches or so without having to chance their team, when was hte last time we ever had that option!

I stopped reading there. Absolutely clueless in my opinion so we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
I stopped reading there. Absolutely clueless in my opinion so we'll have to agree to disagree.

I know it was a daft response, so was the ones before it about relegation form and shit like that. It's not relegation form as we're not in the bottom three!

That was the clueless post!
 
I know it was a daft response, so was the ones before it about relegation form and shit like that. It's not relegation form as we're not in the bottom three!

That was the clueless post!

so what do you call less than one point per game then ?

or 5 wins out of the 26 last ?

It's certainly not progress.
 
The last thing we need is another 10 players in, that's the whole reason the season hasn't started the way we'd like, cos players need time to settle in.

At the minute our only real problem is the lack of options up front, but come Christmas tiem when Wickham and Campbell are back playing along with whoever he brings in, in Jan, then i'll be very happy with our squadm despite what people say and that will be down to Bruce!

I just don't understand how people can't see the progress we're making and how it's all about small steps!

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying we need 10 players in. I was saying we brought 10 players in last summer. And we're STILL short in certain areas and, in my opinion, need at least another 4.

You're saying we have the strongest squad we've ever had but you talk about how you'll be happy with the squad when we get a very long term injured player back, and when we get an 18 year old back who was bought as one for the future, to play alongside a striker we haven't bought yet... We didn't get one last January, why do you think we'll get one this January? If we don't though, don't worry because we can use the one we have who we don't even own.

You are happy with the midfield? I'm not. Maybe if he had an idea of how to play and who he wants to play there. He doesn't know what he wants. 'I'll buy him. Hhhm. That didn't work. Let's try him. Damn it! What about him? Let's buy him and give him a go.'

Do you not think that we have problems with numbers at the back? Or on the left? Yes the first team is canny, but what if any of them get crocked? It's happened to others in the team.

I can see the progress we were making, but I don't think we are progressing now and to be honest I'll be relieved if we are no lower than we are now come the end of the season. If you average 0.9 points per game you're going down.
 
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I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying we need 10 players in. I was saying we brought 10 players in last summer. And we're STILL short in certain areas and, in my opinion, need at least another 4.

You're saying we have the strongest squad we've ever had but you talk about how you'll be happy with the squad when we get a very long term injured player back, and when we get an 18 year old back who was bought as one for the future, to play alongside a striker we haven't bought yet... We didn't get one last January, why do you think we'll get one this January? If we don't though, don't worry because we can use the one we have who we don't even own.

You are happy with the midfield? I'm not. Maybe if he had an idea of how to play and who he wants to play there. He doesn't know what he wants. 'I'll buy him. Hhhm. That didn't work. Let's try him. Damn it! What about him? Let's buy him and give him a go.'

Do you not think that we have problems with numbers at the back? Or on the left? Yes the first team is canny, but what if any of them get crocked? It's happened to others in the team.

I can see the progress we were making, but I don't think we are progressing now and to be honest I'll be relieved if we are no lower than we are now come the end of the season. If you average 0.9 points per game you're going down.

I know what you're saying our squad is still a long way off being fully complete, but I think with two maybe 3 more first team players brought in, cf, lw and creative cm we will be laughing. We won't have direct cover all over the pitch but we'll have players that can more than do a job for 2 or three games if needed.

As for the striker problem yes we didn't get one last Jan Bruce gambled on Gyan welbeck and Campbell being enough, injuries spoilt that of course. He the brought in nick b and wickham to play with Gyan and sess, but once again injury and a decision at board level has left us short. That's not Bruces fault. End of the transfer window we had decent forwards in!
 
I know what you're saying our squad is still a long way off being fully complete, but I think with two maybe 3 more first team players brought in, cf, lw and creative cm we will be laughing. We won't have direct cover all over the pitch but we'll have players that can more than do a job for 2 or three games if needed.

As for the striker problem yes we didn't get one last Jan Bruce gambled on Gyan welbeck and Campbell being enough, injuries spoilt that of course. He the brought in nick b and wickham to play with Gyan and sess, but once again injury and a decision at board level has left us short. That's not Bruces fault. End of the transfer window we had decent forwards in!

You do realise that we also need a proper left back, not just someone that can fill in there ?

Something we have been missing for the best part of 2 seasons

Sess isn't a centre forward. Never has been and never will be.
 
I'm ready to get slated for this, but i honestly think Bruce is been giving a very hard time over alot of things which aren't his fault.

Bent went for daft money in January, something Bruce had no control over as our club isn't big enough to turn down those sort of offers. He then gambled on not diving in and getting someone that wasn't going to fit in the club, he still had Welbeck, Gyan and Campbell just weeks away from match fitness.

We obviously know what happened next and the Bruce gamble didn't pay off, fair enough, i would have done the same thing.

The last few weeks of the season when Sess went up front, we seen a different player and a one that was starting to score, then against West Ham with him and Gyan they clicked and looked very good together.

Bruce then obviously thought we had a very good pair in Sess and Gyan, so didn't need to spend big over the summer on a forward. He however bought one of the hottest prospects in English football in Wickham, a player we would have only dreamed of signing.

When he saw Sess and Gyan wasn't working at the start of the season, he brought in Bendtner to help us along. I don't think anyone can argue that Gyan, Bendtner, Sess and Wickham wasn't a decent strike force and we couldn't be happy with it.

Then once again out of Bruce's hands Gyan left, which left us in the mire. Bruce threw in Wickham and that started to look like we finally had a decent strikeforce and Sess fit in perfectly on the left, our results picked up. Wickham then got injured, not Bruce's fault and we're left with just one up front again.

Basically the whole point of my article is that we've just been extremely unlucky with personnel and injuries. We've got the making of a good team, looking solid at the back, Sess can clearly do a job on the left, we just need Wickham back or even Campbell and we'll be absolutely fine.

If Wickham had played on Sat and Seb we'd have beat Fulham easily and it would have been a totally different picture this week!

Just give Bruce time to build his team, we will come good!

Fcuk off man you absolute tool. The bloke is almost as much of a waste of flesh and bone as your good self.
 
Say what you like about mag WUMs but the OP here is the biggest WUM on the board. :lol:

Each post is absolute pigshit.
 
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