Bringing Wickham on with seven minutes to go


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What does the OP mean a new low?

Swansea, second game of the season, 2-2, bring Campbell on on the 84th minute. Saha had come on for Fletcher earlier, keeping our formation the same.

Following this came many games where Campbell or Saha came on late, often for Fletcher.

Everton away, Wickham first sub, 88 minutes of Colback. 0-0 against QPR, Saha was given 12 minutes. I've got a bit bored about looking through old match reports at this point.

Basically we have rarely changed our shape or ideas with more than 15 minutes to go. This is MoN's tactic. Wait until very late and make a change, hoping for a dramatic last minute goal.
 
Bent wanted to leave for more money, as did Gyan. They got it.
He never fell out with them.
Cana lost his place through injury and could not get back in and wouldnt go on the bench. Meyler was better than him. He was found out. He was a dud as his subsequent history has proved. Fair play we got our money back
He wanted out, and what he done since.
To suggest Bent was nothing to do with Bruce is total made up twaddle and you know it.
Henderson never played or started a full game until Bruce arrived.
What did Gordon contribute to the 10th place? He was forever sick man.
Ferdinand was a bit part player.
Steed, Rico and maybe Badsley were the only inherited players that got regular games.
Nice attempt at rewriting history mind. Pity it lacks a shred of truth.

You haven't got a clue, re-writing history indeed.
 
It looks like he doesnt trust that squad with more than 7 minutes out of their regular shape. I think he was worried that he would change it and we would get beat. If so its hard to disagree with that assessment.
 
That is a new low in the tactical game plan of the clueless twat

Standard practice, giving a young hungry lad a little first team experience, hoping his youthful energy will bear fruit against a team of players that are tired from having played 80-odd minutes.

Have we forgotten young Micheal Bridges already?

OK, what about James McClean last season if MB is too long ago?
 
to give wickham(or any striker for that matter) anything less than 20 minutes to get into the game is bewildering. 7 minutes seems ridiculous on the face of it.

if he was replacing an injured player or at the very extreme reacting to an opposition substitution/tactic fair enough but i'm 95% certain it wasn't. i'm giving MON the benefit of the doubt with the other 5%. thats all it is though, 5 per f**king cent.

It might be to you, but I can see what MoN was doing.

We only had 1 substitution left. If we'd grabbed a goal while still playing 4-5-1, we could've brought on a defensive player to defend that lead until the end.

With Wickham on earlier, going 2-1 up would've meant we'd have a long time to have to sit and defend that lead with fewer defensive players on the pitch than necessary.

MoN's decision to wait gave us options. He's a clever man.

But therein lies the problem. If you're the only clever man at an idiot's convention, they'll all think the clever one is stupid for thinking differently to the crowd.

What's that well-known story story about the king, his people, and the well that makes you mad if you drink from it?
 
It might be to you, but I can see what MoN was doing.

We only had 1 substitution left.

They were down to 10 men :confused: even if we had an injury after the third sub, it would still have been 10 against 10.

With Wickham on earlier, going 2-1 up would've meant we'd have a long time to have to sit and defend that lead with fewer defensive players on the pitch than necessary.

Are you seriously suggesting that scoring goals is a bad thing? Then you have the perfect manager for your philosophy!

MoN's decision to wait gave us options. He's a clever man.

We were crying out for something different and mr negative goes 1 up front against 10 men. That is taking options away mate.

But therein lies the problem. If you're the only clever man at an idiot's convention, they'll all think the clever one is stupid for thinking differently to the crowd.

His 'different thinking' has taken us backwards. The crowd can see it. The cheer when Wickham finally came on shows that people are sick of this negative rubbish. Even Hughton brought a striker on to go for the win and he only ten men on the field!
 
What would you have done like?

I'd have swapped Rose in midfield for Vaughan for a start

Bardsley and Wickham on with Graham going off

Ffs wanting Bardsley on is bad :cry:

Maybe even swapped Larsson and Gardner for supposedly better crosses
 
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It might be to you, but I can see what MoN was doing.

We only had 1 substitution left. If we'd grabbed a goal while still playing 4-5-1, we could've brought on a defensive player to defend that lead until the end.

With Wickham on earlier, going 2-1 up would've meant we'd have a long time to have to sit and defend that lead with fewer defensive players on the pitch than necessary.

MoN's decision to wait gave us options. He's a clever man.

But therein lies the problem. If you're the only clever man at an idiot's convention, they'll all think the clever one is stupid for thinking differently to the crowd.

What's that well-known story story about the king, his people, and the well that makes you mad if you drink from it?

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It might be to you, but I can see what MoN was doing.

We only had 1 substitution left. If we'd grabbed a goal while still playing 4-5-1, we could've brought on a defensive player to defend that lead until the end.

With Wickham on earlier, going 2-1 up would've meant we'd have a long time to have to sit and defend that lead with fewer defensive players on the pitch than necessary.

MoN's decision to wait gave us options. He's a clever man.

But therein lies the problem. If you're the only clever man at an idiot's convention, they'll all think the clever one is stupid for thinking differently to the crowd.

What's that well-known story story about the king, his people, and the well that makes you mad if you drink from it?

Spot on post mate. What some people will not concede is that the right thing to do is more often than not the unpopular choice....on top of that sometimes the right thing doesn't pay off. With that, clever managers are between a rock and a hard place.
 
Fuck me, there's more idiots on this board than I ever imagined.

Let me get this straight, taking a striker off and replacing him with a midfielder and keeping our only other striking option on the bench was just in case we scored (with a lessened attacking team) so we could make a change and defend the lead, which we don't yet have, despite playing versus 10 men for the last 40+ minutes !!

Can I just make two important points,

1) We had a numerical advantage
2) We had a numerical advantage - copyright Red Dwarf

Now I realise I my have repeated myself but I thought the point was such an important one it was worth repeating -- If we had scored we still had a numerical advantage, we could've man-marked every Norwich player on the pitch and still had a spare man !!

This MON love-in is very dangerous.
 
Fuck me, there's more idiots on this board than I ever imagined.

Let me get this straight, taking a striker off and replacing him with a midfielder and keeping our only other striking option on the bench was just in case we scored (with a lessened attacking team) so we could make a change and defend the lead, which we don't yet have, despite playing versus 10 men for the last 40+ minutes !!

Can I just make two important points,

1) We had a numerical advantage
2) We had a numerical advantage - copyright Red Dwarf

Now I realise I my have repeated myself but I thought the point was such an important one it was worth repeating -- If we had scored we still had a numerical advantage, we could've man-marked every Norwich player on the pitch and still had a spare man !!

This MON love-in is very dangerous.

We couldn't man mark Stephen Hawking but I get your point

Think people forget we were playing 10 man Norwich and a win was vital
 
We couldn't man mark Stephen Hawking but I get your point

Think people forget we were playing 10 man Norwich and a win was vital

Very much this, it may well be ranked as one of the top 3 most crucial games of the season and we had such a great opportunity to get three points but we let it slip away so pathetically easy. We were at home versus a 10 man Norwich team.

:evil:
 
Wickhams poor that's probably why he didn't bring him on. When he came on it was a last resort and he didn't touch the ball until added time
 
Wickhams poor that's probably why he didn't bring him on. When he came on it was a last resort and he didn't touch the ball until added time
Why bring him back if he thinks he's poor...sorry forget fan pressure
 
At this stage I'd like to recap on the SMB fringe player index;

World Class - Out on loan
Great - Potentially recalled
Good - Recalled
Average - On bench
Poor - Named in team
"Embarrassing" - Playing
 
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