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Is that any different from any game var or not?

It's different because in games without VAR you can't be certain that the ref had a good view of an incident, you could almost forgive him not giving it if he didn't see it. If he's been told by the VAR that he's probably missed something and he chooses not to have another look then he's confirming that he saw it. If he saw it and didn't give it then he's incompetent and should be sent home. If he wasn't asked to review it then the VAR is shite
 
Every decision is not looked at by var.

A perfect example has just occured. Would you have rather it was a free kick and Egypt should just live with the error?
Yes, that was good, but it equally misses plenty. There will be many 20 or 30 decisions a game. As mentioned above FIFA will be reviewing whether VAR failed last night and other times.
 
Well, as the Telegraph article attached above says FIFA have acknowledged that they will review whether VAR failed last night - especially when they laughably said that there would be zero tolerance on such incidents. The point is that it is quite obvious the VAR is missing a lot of incidents but picking up others - that is the opposite of sorting out inconsistencies. I bet you FIFA acknowledge that incidents like the Kane one should have been picked up.

Fair enough. I don't think it should be in at all as goal line tech is enough. However as it it should just be used if the ref makes a bad decision rather than every little incident or checking offsides even if it hasn't resulted in a goal.

The penalty for Sweden is how it should be used. The ref saw it, didn't give it, VAR seen it was blatant, pulled it back.
 
So is it the case that the VAR can advise the ref he's missed a keeper hitting the opposition's centre forward around the head with a giant dildo and the ref can just say "meh" and ignore it?
 
It's different because in games without VAR you can't be certain that the ref had a good view of an incident, you could almost forgive him not giving it if he didn't see it. If he's been told by the VAR that he's probably missed something and he chooses not to have another look then he's confirming that he saw it. If he saw it and didn't give it then he's incompetent and should be sent home. If he wasn't asked to review it then the VAR is shite
That is not the fault of var. It's matter of opinion where the problem occur. The ref has his, the var as I've said is there to ASSIST and not take over. It's down to the onfield referee all decisions
 
It's different because in games without VAR you can't be certain that the ref had a good view of an incident, you could almost forgive him not giving it if he didn't see it. If he's been told by the VAR that he's probably missed something and he chooses not to have another look then he's confirming that he saw it. If he saw it and didn't give it then he's incompetent and should be sent home. If he wasn't asked to review it then the VAR is shite

But then how do you decide? What if the ref saw Kane getting pulled to the ground and thought it wasn't, like other posters on here don't? VAR suggests it is, and loads think it is. Who is correct?
 
Fair enough. I don't think it should be in at all as goal line tech is enough. However as it it should just be used if the ref makes a bad decision rather than every little incident or checking offsides even if it hasn't resulted in a goal.
Totally agree but I just don't think it can be limited. If it becomes a regular feature every game will be about when VAR is used and when its not - can you imagine Mourinho with VAR - anytime they lose talking about 4 or 5 incidents which should have been 'VAR'd'. Personally, so far it simply is not improving the games at all because after review it still about opinion.
 
Yes, that was good, but it equally misses plenty. There will be many 20 or 30 decisions a game. As mentioned above FIFA will be reviewing whether VAR failed last night and other times.
That is not how the var was to be used. Checking 20 decisions a game etc. It's there to assist, not takeover completely.

Again it's here for the first time in a world cup. Every sport on introduction of TV assistance has seen howls of disgust and calls for its scrapping

It's here to stay and we will just have to live with it
 
That is not the fault of var. It's matter of opinion where the problem occur. The ref has his, the var as I've said is there to ASSIST and not take over. It's down to the onfield referee all decisions

I'm not saying it's the fault of VAR. My point is that the ref should be sent home if he saw that clearly, didn't give it and didn't want to have another look to be certain. But if the VAR didn't ask the ref to have another look then it is the fault of the VAR because it was a clear and obvious error not to give a penalty
 
Totally agree but I just don't think it can be limited. If it becomes a regular feature every game will be about when VAR is used and when its not - can you imagine Mourinho with VAR - anytime they lose talking about 4 or 5 incidents which should have been 'VAR'd'. Personally, so far it simply is not improving the games at all because after review it still about opinion.

Should just be used to check all is well for a goal or penalty award. A bit like cricket with wickets.
 
For the first Kane penalty decision VAR would have spotted Stones' push prior to the rugby tackle so no penalty.

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That's the kind of thing in rugby that would be looked at, discussed and communicated to fans so you can understand why a decision was made and move on. You might disagree with the interpretation but at least you know what you're disagreeing about.
 
That is not how the var was to be used. Checking 20 decisions a game etc. It's there to assist, not takeover completely.

Again it's here for the first time in a world cup. Every sport on introduction of TV assistance has seen howls of disgust and calls for its scrapping

It's here to stay and we will just have to live with it
OK, I think it will make football worse and not reduce the inconsistency of decision making.
 
OK, I think it will make football worse and not reduce the inconsistency of decision making.
Say that incident happened in a game where a cup was won. Would you want it to be a free kick rather than a penalty, so we would walk out of the ground and say, it will even up?
 
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