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Vauxie said:
Yes and who paid all them players?
And how many have a job now?
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well lest see-john o shea was empoyed as a footballer until a few weeks ago..at a club ina higehr league than safc..he also got hired as a footballer for ireland and played in major tournaments since pdc left..so thats ireland and reading managers as well as good safc managers like sam allardyce who didnt see him as a problem..and pdc who did..pdc the failure vs the opinion of successful people in the same proifession? i know who i want to believe..
 
kildaremackem said:
well lest see-john o shea was empoyed as a footballer until a few weeks ago..at a club ina higehr league than safc..he also got hired as a footballer for ireland and played in major tournaments since pdc left..so thats ireland and reading managers as well as good safc managers like sam allardyce who didnt see him as a problem..and pdc who did..pdc the failure vs the opinion of successful people in the same proifession? i know who i want to believe..
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Fuck me I could play for the tatty pickers I like irish stee

Vauxie said:
Fuck me I could play for the tatty pickers I like irish stee
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Stew
 
kildaremackem said:
its not a problem in that it dioesnt matter a yard..question is-is he a good football manager? evidence sauys yes..i liek evidence and dont care about your opinion..which isntr based on evidence..
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There plenty of good managers out there, and regarding evidence he's taken Charlton up via the playoffs not exactly mind blowing is it.
 
shepherd88 said:
Charlton Athletic have been unable to reach an agreement with manager Lee Bowyer regarding the extension of his contract.

The fact the club is for sale has not helped with finding an agreement. The current owner needs to take into account that a new owner may want to appoint his own manager. However, this concern did not stop the current owner proposing a contract extension of one year to Lee Bowyer, even though the club may be sold in a few weeks. Under those circumstances a multi-year extension would not be good business practice.

In addition, since the club is still losing money, which is one of the reasons why the club has not been sold yet, the focus on reducing costs means that we are extremely limited on payroll increases.

Lee has been offered a one-year extension to his contract at a level which is approximately three times what he had since his last increase when he became permanent manager in September. It is six times what he earned when he started as assistant manager in 2017 and 50% more than what any Charlton manager previously had (excluding the Premier League years). This reflects the strong desire we have to continue to have Lee as our manager. But Lee wanted much more.

The owner understands Lee’s point of view, because many Championship clubs pay huge amounts (some pay millions of £ per year) to their manager. It is fair that Lee feels he should be paid like many other Championship managers. That the average Championship club makes a loss of around £15 million per year is not something players should care about. The owners are crazy.

This is why we could not come to an agreement. Another element may have influenced as well. Unlike previous contract discussions, Lee wanted an agent to handle it. We reluctantly accepted. However, involving a player agent in a manager’s contract discussion is not healthy. If the agent helps make the manager more money, it may result in the manager to have a more positive attitude towards players proposed by the same agent, a conflict of interest. Obviously, Lee is above such things, but it is nevertheless not a healthy situation.

The club hasn’t started to look for any other manager in the meantime and does not intend to appoint a permanent manager, since the club is going to be sold. A caretaker manager will be announced in due course and in the meantime the other staff members will continue to prepare the upcoming season for which a lot of good work has been performed already.

If Lee does change his mind before his contract expires and chooses to continue his good work at Charlton, he is still welcome to stay.

However our ability to sell the club is the most important thing right now.
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However the owners also said we still beat Sunderland without any money.
 
RichD said:
There plenty of good managers out there, and regarding evidence he's taken Charlton up via the playoffs not exactly mind blowing is it.
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it is when yoiu look the what he had tio deal with-constant uncertainty over his role..constant uncertainty over ownership..first team striker sold in jan and no money to replave him..
if him not taking a team like them up..with little to spend and huge uncertainty is not awe inspiring..what does that make the job doen by ross..who with les suncertainty and multiples more ahs couldnt do it?
 
kildaremackem said:
they offered him a low league one managers wage...source: evening standard..


it serious =ly means he could be obeing offered a wedge that is lower than jack ross gets..despite being ina higher divisin..
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which is treble his current wage. If he wants to earn £2million p/annum then Charlton clearly aren't the club for him.
 
kildaremackem said:
it is when yoiu look the what he had tio deal with-constant uncertainty over his role..constant uncertainty over ownership..first team striker sold in jan and no money to replave him..
if him not taking a team like them up..with little to spend and huge uncertainty is not awe inspiring..what does that make the job doen by ross..who with les suncertainty and multiples more ahs couldnt do it?
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You could say the same about Jack Ross when he took St Mirren up to the Scottish premier league.
 
Doberman said:
which is treble his current wage. If he wants to earn £2million p/annum then Charlton clearly aren't the club for him.
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treble fuck all is still fuck all..how about he wants to earn what other people doing the same job get? he is a highly regrded manager after his ahcievements last season..winners deserve to be rearded..he won and they are offering him a losers wage..

RichD said:
You could say the same about Jack Ross when he took St Mirren up to the Scottish premier league.
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you could..ross did well prior to getting here..albeit at a lower level..but he did a good job.. no doubt..
 
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