Borini.... I know I know


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If we're talking about Wickham, he might have a better touch and more energy and is more alert, Borini quicker over short distances, not be much in it pace wise at full speed.

Obviously Borini was supreme at penalties, not sure about better finisher as Wickham generally gets himself in a poor position having made the wrong choice, then shoots. On some occasions he's looked a natural finisher, but last season he missed some relatively simple ones. Borini just used to shoot from anywhere having held onto the ball too long for the vast majority of his time here, some went pretty close but rarely did they go in.

Borini certainly seemed to draw more saves than Wickham does.
 
Wickham is f***ing shite, an embarrassment of a footballer. I cannot wait til we get shot of the useless bastard me like, nowhere near as good as our 2nd worst player. Hopefully some fucker will employ poyet and he can buy him off us. Love us to sign Borini mind
 
Borini certainly seemed to draw more saves than Wickham does.

True. Borini was rather greedy and not a team player till the run in, in terms of distribution (IMO - work rate and covering yes) but whilst he did shoot from anywhere, some were quite spectacular and he was unlucky. Last season Wickham had chances despite often playing wide and some were relatively easy and he didn't even get them on target.

I guess last season I thought Borini was the most important signing we could make, given the manner in which we played and what he offered. Now it appears we have covered that role I'm just not convinced he's good enough in a centre forward role to warrant going out on a limb to get him. I think there's a lot of question marks over him in that role, maybe less than someone like Wickham, but given Wickham is here and he hasn't really had an extended run in the role, I'd prefer to give him the chance or if we were to sell him bring someone other than Borini in.
 
True. Borini was rather greedy and not a team player till the run in, in terms of distribution (IMO - work rate and covering yes) but whilst he did shoot from anywhere, some were quite spectacular and he was unlucky. Last season Wickham had chances despite often playing wide and some were relatively easy and he didn't even get them on target.

I guess last season I thought Borini was the most important signing we could make, given the manner in which we played and what he offered. Now it appears we have covered that role I'm just not convinced he's good enough in a centre forward role to warrant going out on a limb to get him. I think there's a lot of question marks over him in that role, maybe less than someone like Wickham, but given Wickham is here and he hasn't really had an extended run in the role, I'd prefer to give him the chance or if we were to sell him bring someone other than Borini in.

Good points. I don't think Borini could do a job as the central forward, he could maybe replace Johnson if the worst happens but I'd like to think we can do better. We need pace throughout the side and although Borini wasn't slow, you wouldn't say he was blessed with pace.

I agree with what you say regarding Wickham. He's not afraid to shoot but his accuracy is awful.
 
True. Borini was rather greedy and not a team player till the run in, in terms of distribution (IMO - work rate and covering yes) but whilst he did shoot from anywhere, some were quite spectacular and he was unlucky. Last season Wickham had chances despite often playing wide and some were relatively easy and he didn't even get them on target.

I guess last season I thought Borini was the most important signing we could make, given the manner in which we played and what he offered. Now it appears we have covered that role I'm just not convinced he's good enough in a centre forward role to warrant going out on a limb to get him. I think there's a lot of question marks over him in that role, maybe less than someone like Wickham, but given Wickham is here and he hasn't really had an extended run in the role, I'd prefer to give him the chance or if we were to sell him bring someone other than Borini in.
Pretty much how I feel. Was genuinely gutted and a bit annoyed we firstly failed to convince him and secondly not have a plan b. He was the difference in more than just goals that season and it was naivety that meant we ended up struggling up front for the majority of last season.

If we hadn't have brought in Lens then I may have started to dream of Fabio once again but we have other priorities. A CM and a central striker in the Defoe mould. Borini isn't either.

Maybe if we lose AJ then he may be another option in a front 3.
 
He found his feet and his level here and played well for half a season. He gave it the billy big bollocks and warmed the bench for the season at Liverpool. His choice, wrong one though wasn't it?



Thinking he could get a first team place over (or even alongside) Sturridge, Ballotelli and Lambert.

He hardly got a start when 2 of the 3 were injured and when he did he was largely shite. He got the same amount of red cards as he scored goals :lol:

so, nothing a matter with ambition. I really don't understand the attitude of some fans

In your work life do you strive for a better job at a better company with better wages? Every human on earth should
 
so, nothing a matter with ambition. I really don't understand the attitude of some fans

In your work life do you strive for a better job at a better company with better wages? Every human on earth should
It's football not f***ing work man. He knew his time there had come to an end with the two accepted bids.
He just didn't want to come to us or QPR. Instead he acted like a jilted pussy and fucked on trying to stay at Liverpool. He should've accepted it like a "man he is" and left.
 
It's football not f***ing work man. He knew his time there had come to an end with the two accepted bids.
He just didn't want to come to us or QPR. Instead he acted like a jilted pussy and fucked on trying to stay at Liverpool. He should've accepted it like a "man he is" and left.

He didn't want to come? So what? He wanted to give it ago, he started some key games, he started Real Madrid away

I just don't get this mentality of some fans. He did nothing wrong at all
 
He didn't want to come? So what? He wanted to give it ago, he started some key games, he started Real Madrid away

I just don't get this mentality of some fans. He did nothing wrong at all
Not saying he did anything wrong. From a career point of view, he should've left last summer. Liverpool didn't want him then and they don't want him now.
 
Not saying he did anything wrong. From a career point of view, he should've left last summer. Liverpool didn't want him then and they don't want him now.

True maybe he should but he stayed for the right reasons, to try and prove himself

Interesting to see what he does now
 
He didn't want to come? So what? He wanted to give it ago, he started some key games, he started Real Madrid away

I just don't get this mentality of some fans. He did nothing wrong at all

Classic from Rodgers - one of the few times a manager has effectively threw a one-off game by playing the reserves. They might have got a result if Borini wasn't playing.
 
True maybe he should but he stayed for the right reasons, to try and prove himself

Interesting to see what he does now
Prove himself? I think he knew his Liverpool career was over mate, he was just in denial with it all. Plus his lass is a scouser too. He's been on loan most of his career and while it sounds biased. He should've joined us while he had the chance. Maybe he thinks he's too good for a club like ours but he'll end up at Leicester :lol: funny old world.
 
I think a lot of people would cut their nose off to spite their face on these boards like, Borini would undoubtedly improve our squad and add some much needed attacking impetus, he obviously wanted to try and take a chance at a much bigger club than us, so fair enough.

I'd have him back for that price as unlikely as it is.

It's a disease this club needs rid of imho.
 
so, nothing a matter with ambition. I really don't understand the attitude of some fans

In your work life do you strive for a better job at a better company with better wages? Every human on earth should


Ambition or deluded opinion?

It was never about money, he wouldn't have signed for us for less money. He thought he could cut it at Champions league level after he'd spent a few months finally cutting at our level. He fucked up and I for one couldn't give a shit. He thought he was too good for us, wrong fabio!

Allan Johnson went to Rangers to play for his boyhood club and that was fair enough in my eyes. Downing the same.
 
It's all a bit pointless, though, isn't it? He won't come here, and Dick probably doesn't rate him so highly anyway.
 
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