Bolton get suspended points deduction bbc sport



pfceggchaser said:
Need to note it's not the EFL who have decided here, but an independent panel who were referred the case by the EFL, in a similar way to how the Birmingham City case was dealt with last season.

Bolton put an impassioned case forward to an independent panel, as any club defending themselves would. Laid on thick the 'protect the kids, we've suffered enough argument'. The EFL representations were shocking for an organisation who wanted the points deductions. They have failed the integrity of the league and the other 70 clubs with such a lame case.

As for the judgement itself, Bolton have gotten away with it because the panel have effectively ruled along the lines that it was partly the EFL's fault they were in a state (not really sure how they worked that out, when what happened to Bury was a failure of the EFL's OADT, and Bolton's was a decade of self inflicted financial mismanagement). But on this case, they've apparently ruled that Bolton were wrong to postpone a game unilaterally but had mitigating circumstances hence the soft (no) punishment.

If I were Doncaster Rovers I'd be fuming. The fixture list is what it is. Teams will play other teams when they are weaker and stronger throughout the season, so good luck to Ipswich, Rochdale and Wycombe for doing what had to be done. That's normal when you play some teams in form, some out of form, some with injuries, some unbeaten in 15 etc. Bolton were clearly going to be shit early on. For the reasons given for the postponement, that game should have been awarded to Doncaster. End of. The panel have overlooked this.

What the panel have also utterly failed to recognise is the social and sporting integrity of the competition. 5 points off now, and a game conceded to Donny would have been fair enough and we would have all moved on. As it is, they have set a dangerous precedent that the EFL will want to avoid, so there will probably be an appeal.

It's not the first time such panels have delivered a miscarriage of justice to the football community either. You may recall the Wimbledon to MK saga. It went a similar way. Alas these panels are clueless on football matters and always will be. Either that, or this panel was made up of Bolton fans!

Final note: we were docked 20 points for the same administration by the football league when it was supposed to be 10 points for entering admin only. (10 points x 2 over the 11/12 and 12/13 seasons). Whilst the 2nd 10 points ultimately had no bearing on our relegation from L1 to L2 at the end of that season, the lack of consistency is startling.

FWIW, they'll go down anyway. Southend are worse, but Wimbledon are better. Tranmere were similar to them, but I can't see them making up the points on them. Admittedly we've not played Rochdale, Accrington or MK yet who are 'down there', but they were woeful v us when we were there to be beat.
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The points deduction should have been applied at the time and then they could have appealed it.
 
In fairness to them it was different ownership when they called it off iirc... As with Bury, they should not have be allowed to play until a take over was confirmed... What has made a mockery of the league is how some teams got to play their youth team earlier in the season
 
Disgraceful decision and there's no doubt that Bolton have got away with it again.

The Brentford game was irrelevant as Bolton were already relegated but the Doncaster game really should have been awarded to Donny.

The suspended 5 points is a farce and opens up the proverbial can of worms next time another team calls a game off. The stance "they've been through enough" shouldn't make any difference.

Cue a potential court case and end of season shambles if Bolton stay up by 5 or less points.
 
thamesvalleyman said:
Disgraceful decision and there's no doubt that Bolton have got away with it again.

The Brentford game was irrelevant as Bolton were already relegated but the Doncaster game really should have been awarded to Donny.

The suspended 5 points is a farce and opens up the proverbial can of worms next time another team calls a game off. The stance "they've been through enough" shouldn't make any difference.

Cue a potential court case and end of season shambles if Bolton stay up by 5 or less points.
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What happens if Donny were awarded the points and pipped someone to playoff/ promotion? .. Maybe an immediate 3points deduction should have kicked in... Or like I said in another post, they should have been banned from playing any games until a take over was confirmed... That's the real injustice
 
SpiritofBurnden said:
Depends on the circumstances.

How many points did Blackpool get deducted when their game with Huddersfield was abandoned at half-time because their supporters were protesting against Oysten?
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No idea but totally different scenario. They were actually trying to fulfil their fixture unlike you knackers.
 
MackemX said:
Bit shit on the team below them if they finish level or a few points ahead of them end of season in relegation.
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The whole thing is / was a farce and could have potentially long term financial consequences for any team relegated at Bolton's expense.

If Bolton (or any other club) or unable to commit to playing their fixtures they should be expelled from the league to protect it's integrity.
 
Two games, should be deducted a further 6 points as Boro got three for one game. Also I thought the FA was going to do something about when they were getting stuffed 0-5 and 0-6 with their kids team. Something about goal differences.
 
SpiritofBurnden said:
You've missed the point for a second time.

No idea what either Bolton or Bury's case has to do with Swindon's demotion in 1990 either, other than you trying to shoe-horn them into every conversation.


Take it up with the EFL.

They asked us to fulfill fixtures with our kids.
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No, you were required to fulfill fixtures as part of your membership of the EFL. The age and abilities of players at your disposal is of no consequence.
 

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