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How long was that radio show if it was 'the majority'? :lol:

Remember we have 60,000 screaming fans every week before you answer.

Also, it was fifth we finished. Not sixth.
 
i once bumped into bobby robson, almost literally. it was at the bottom of northumberland street crossroads. bobby was making his way along in a semi-hurry whilst nodding to various mags and well-wishers. i wouldn't say he was being rude but you could also see he was trying to keep things moving along and hadn't come to a stop for anyone as a mini crowd followed.
i caught eye contact and although i can't remember his exact words it was along the lines "i hope it's a good result today". "me too" i said, "i'm sunderland". with that bobby came to a grinding halt and talked to me for a full ten minutes. we had a good chat as the small crowd of mags looked on, i often wonder what they made of it all.
at the end of it he shook my hand as we exchanged best wishes. maybe others have different experiences but for me it was hard not to like the bloke. i wouldn't want to get into the was he a sunderland/newcastle fan but the interest and knowledge he showed regarding sunderland were more than just a polite passing interest.
 
There's been some right shite posted on here with interludes of fact.

SBR was black and white, to say otherwise is just ignorant.

He loved the north east and all sport. He was from an area and era where there was a good mix of support and where it was common to go to see both teams. He says himself that he to SJP with his father and that it was a much easier journey than going to Safc would have been.

He was welcomed by the Sunderland board in later years but he was Nufc to the core.

He was spat at by a couple of knackers when he was England manager. Safc sang about him pissing his pants when he was Nufc manager.

Freddie Shepherd treated him disgracefully. He should have got rid pre season as opposed to saying he had a year and then sacked him 4 games in where we'd battered Spurs and lost, conceded a last minute equaliser at boro to a Hasselbaink far post punch. I think we'd drawn at home to Norwich as well.

He was not hounded out by the majority of fans. A good number thought his time had come (and if Shepherd had appointed a proper manager instead of that clown Souness things may have been different).

The sad fact is that the cancer returned relatively shortly after his departure and Souness dismantled a good team.

After that last game if the season there was booing for the team as they'd bollocksed up 4th place and had let themselves, the manager, the club and the fans down by there end if season form. Most fans left the ground and SBR slated them (count me in on this for leaving but not booing) in the media.

In the aftermath SBR was deeply hurt, Shepherd acted like a twat but his love for Nufc and the north east endured.

At his passing the club did the right thing; ordinary people of the north east wanted to pay their respects, opening the ground was the obvious thing to do. People laid Safc shirts, those weren't removed or defaced, they remained where they had been laid which was only right.

The mods on here really need to stop these threads; it's embarrassing. And yes, there are Nufc fans who rewrite history but not to the extent that us constantly spouted in these threads.

I was there; including the spitting game.

History rewritten
 
.. every mag who came on the phone in, every fookin day (and I said about).. you still have a decent amuout of fans, but your ground is rather quiet these days..

How long was that radio show if it was 'the majority'? :lol:

Remember we have 60,000 screaming fans every week before you answer.

Also, it was fifth we finished. Not sixth.
 
.. every mag who came on the phone in, every fookin day (and I said about).. you still have a decent amount of fans, but your ground is rather quiet these days..

Fact, not history rewritten: Quote from the Guardian Monday 30 August 2004, following SBR's sacking, this is one of many historic web pages, please take the time to Google it, I cant find any mention of fans booing SBR, loads of references to player unrest and conflict with the board etc.

This was the era of the so called "Brat Pack" Dyer, Bellamy, Boyer, Woodgate, Jenas, etc., well documented as one the main reasons SBR was sacked as Freddie Shepherd and his board seemed to think he could not control them so the brought in Souness.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/aug/30/football.sallybolton

"But results were not Sir Bobby's only problem this season. Pressure was on the 71-year-old manager after Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd made the surprise announcement

Sir Bobby's difficulties began with an outbreak of conjunctivitis that forced the closure of Newcastle's training ground at the start of August. This was followed by the damaging Dyer row, in which the midfielder's refusal to play on the right wing led to him being dropped by his manager and booed by fans.

Shearer dismissed reports of a player revolt against Sir Bobby as "absolute rubbish" - before he too was dropped in favour of new signing Patrick Kluivert for the game against Aston Villa.

Days earlier Sir Bobby had been forced to accept the loss of Woodgate in a £13.5m transfer to Real Madrid - a deal he was said to have had little involvement in"
 
... you've gone and lost me now.. we can all stick up quotes by someone else ..

http://www.theweek.co.uk/people-news/20763/bobby-robson-hypocrisy-behind-headlines

Fact, not history rewritten: Quote from the Guardian Monday 30 August 2004, following SBR's sacking, this is one of many historic web pages, please take the time to Google it, I cant find any mention of fans booing SBR, loads of references to player unrest and conflict with the board etc.

This was the era of the so called "Brat Pack" Dyer, Bellamy, Boyer, Woodgate, Jenas, etc., well documented as one the main reasons SBR was sacked as Freddie Shepherd and his board seemed to think he could not control them so the brought in Souness.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/aug/30/football.sallybolton

"But results were not Sir Bobby's only problem this season. Pressure was on the 71-year-old manager after Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd made the surprise announcement

Sir Bobby's difficulties began with an outbreak of conjunctivitis that forced the closure of Newcastle's training ground at the start of August. This was followed by the damaging Dyer row, in which the midfielder's refusal to play on the right wing led to him being dropped by his manager and booed by fans.

Shearer dismissed reports of a player revolt against Sir Bobby as "absolute rubbish" - before he too was dropped in favour of new signing Patrick Kluivert for the game against Aston Villa.

Days earlier Sir Bobby had been forced to accept the loss of Woodgate in a £13.5m transfer to Real Madrid - a deal he was said to have had little involvement in"
 
... you've gone and lost me now.. we can all stick up quotes by someone else ..

http://www.theweek.co.uk/people-news/20763/bobby-robson-hypocrisy-behind-headlines

Not sure what this proves. He was spat on at SJP in 1982, disgusting by the no marks who did it. fwiw I think he dropped KK a bit prematurely but understood his reasons. I booed him that game.

There's so much shit posted on threads involving SBR from people who weren't there, haven't read his books and take their truth from what they choose to believe taken from those who also haven't got a f***ing clue.

As I've said, the team was booed, they'd under performed and let SBR, the club and the supporters down towards the end of that season. A good number of fans wanted SBR out as they believed he was too old (he was 71) and had lost the dressing room. The majority were behind him and were annoyed at some of the players who had taken the piss. SBR slated the fans in the media for not staying in any great numbers for the lap of honour at the end of the season. SBR was defending the players who had let him down.

I've little doubt there was dressing room bother. Shepherd completely mismanaged the situation but if Souness had succeeded Shepherd would have felt vindicated. As it was, Souness was bloody useless, SBR's cancer returned and a lot of face saving was started.

I wrote to the club at the time of his sacking saying how unhappy I was and there was an awful lot of unhappy supporters (a majority - who knows?, most remain silent). We drew at 'boro (led twice, Hasselbaink last minute equaliser hand ball), lost at home to Spurs (1-0 we battered them), drew 2-2 to newly promoted Norwich (after leading 2-0 and the team switching off) and then lost 4-2 at Villa (after leading 2-1 at ht with Kluivert playing in place of Shearer). We really could have won all 4 and Shepherd took the opportunity to go back on his word and sack SBR. Shocking.

We had 4 0r 5 great years under SBR, the fans loved him and he loved the club (he loved the north east). He transformed a struggling team into a side with genuine top 4 ambitions and Souness showed how good he was as he mismanaged and dismantled the side within 2 years.

I've little doubt he had a bit of a nasty side as well - he'd have too.

It's ok to like someone who is one of the enemy, you have Stokoe, we have Milburn, the north east and Newcastle and Langley Park has SBR, but don't pretend he was Safc or that he became a subject hate and abuse by a majority of Nufc supporters at the end of his tenure. It's simply not true.

Now wait for the first person to Post "history rewritten" to flippantly ignore the patently clear facts which are there for everyone to find if they so chose too.
 
.. can't be arsed to read it .. can't be arsed with mags re-writing history..


Not sure what this proves. He was spat on at SJP in 1982, disgusting by the no marks who did it. fwiw I think he dropped KK a bit prematurely but understood his reasons. I booed him that game.

There's so much shit posted on threads involving SBR from people who weren't there, haven't read his books and take their truth from what they choose to believe taken from those who also haven't got a f***ing clue.

As I've said, the team was booed, they'd under performed and let SBR, the club and the supporters down towards the end of that season. A good number of fans wanted SBR out as they believed he was too old (he was 71) and had lost the dressing room. The majority were behind him and were annoyed at some of the players who had taken the piss. SBR slated the fans in the media for not staying in any great numbers for the lap of honour at the end of the season. SBR was defending the players who had let him down.

I've little doubt there was dressing room bother. Shepherd completely mismanaged the situation but if Souness had succeeded Shepherd would have felt vindicated. As it was, Souness was bloody useless, SBR's cancer returned and a lot of face saving was started.

I wrote to the club at the time of his sacking saying how unhappy I was and there was an awful lot of unhappy supporters (a majority - who knows?, most remain silent). We drew at 'boro (led twice, Hasselbaink last minute equaliser hand ball), lost at home to Spurs (1-0 we battered them), drew 2-2 to newly promoted Norwich (after leading 2-0 and the team switching off) and then lost 4-2 at Villa (after leading 2-1 at ht with Kluivert playing in place of Shearer). We really could have won all 4 and Shepherd took the opportunity to go back on his word and sack SBR. Shocking.

We had 4 0r 5 great years under SBR, the fans loved him and he loved the club (he loved the north east). He transformed a struggling team into a side with genuine top 4 ambitions and Souness showed how good he was as he mismanaged and dismantled the side within 2 years.

I've little doubt he had a bit of a nasty side as well - he'd have too.

It's ok to like someone who is one of the enemy, you have Stokoe, we have Milburn, the north east and Newcastle and Langley Park has SBR, but don't pretend he was Safc or that he became a subject hate and abuse by a majority of Nufc supporters at the end of his tenure. It's simply not true.

Now wait for the first person to Post "history rewritten" to flippantly ignore the patently clear facts which are there for everyone to find if they so chose too.
 
Not sure what this proves. He was spat on at SJP in 1982, disgusting by the no marks who did it. fwiw I think he dropped KK a bit prematurely but understood his reasons. I booed him that game.

There's so much shit posted on threads involving SBR from people who weren't there, haven't read his books and take their truth from what they choose to believe taken from those who also haven't got a f***ing clue.

As I've said, the team was booed, they'd under performed and let SBR, the club and the supporters down towards the end of that season. A good number of fans wanted SBR out as they believed he was too old (he was 71) and had lost the dressing room. The majority were behind him and were annoyed at some of the players who had taken the piss. SBR slated the fans in the media for not staying in any great numbers for the lap of honour at the end of the season. SBR was defending the players who had let him down.

I've little doubt there was dressing room bother. Shepherd completely mismanaged the situation but if Souness had succeeded Shepherd would have felt vindicated. As it was, Souness was bloody useless, SBR's cancer returned and a lot of face saving was started.

I wrote to the club at the time of his sacking saying how unhappy I was and there was an awful lot of unhappy supporters (a majority - who knows?, most remain silent). We drew at 'boro (led twice, Hasselbaink last minute equaliser hand ball), lost at home to Spurs (1-0 we battered them), drew 2-2 to newly promoted Norwich (after leading 2-0 and the team switching off) and then lost 4-2 at Villa (after leading 2-1 at ht with Kluivert playing in place of Shearer). We really could have won all 4 and Shepherd took the opportunity to go back on his word and sack SBR. Shocking.

We had 4 0r 5 great years under SBR, the fans loved him and he loved the club (he loved the north east). He transformed a struggling team into a side with genuine top 4 ambitions and Souness showed how good he was as he mismanaged and dismantled the side within 2 years.

I've little doubt he had a bit of a nasty side as well - he'd have too.

It's ok to like someone who is one of the enemy, you have Stokoe, we have Milburn, the north east and Newcastle and Langley Park has SBR, but don't pretend he was Safc or that he became a subject hate and abuse by a majority of Nufc supporters at the end of his tenure. It's simply not true.

Now wait for the first person to Post "history rewritten" to flippantly ignore the patently clear facts which are there for everyone to find if they so chose too.


why do you think bobby went to so many sunderland games in his later years? by most accounts he was at sunderland way more than newcastle.
it's quite possible that he originally leaned towards newcastle but i don't think his support was the modern day type. i think he had a real soft spot for sunderland.

in the brief meeting i had with him i genuinely couldn't work out if he was a mag or not. he knew more about sunderland than half the f**kers on this board.
 
Apologies for bringing up this old chestnut but couldn’t resist after listening to some Geordie moron on Talk Sport today, first of all he professed to be a Geordie fanatic but didn,t know what the last trophy was that the scum won, he guessed it was sometime in the sixties but didn’t know the actual year. he then said they last won the FA cup in 1957.
He kept the best till last asked what keeps him going supporting a club who have not won anything for a long time he replied "The one thing that keeps me going is that the spirit of Bobby Robson runs through this club"
This from a fan who the majority drove Bobby Robson out of the club, "To old" "Out of touch" "Cant motivate the player" and a management who sacked him at the first sign of a few bad results and made him take them to court to get his just deserts.
God they make me sick the way they shed crocodile tears, pretend to grieve and hijack Bobby Robison’s name.
Bellamy called it dead right ... They got him the sack no protests, no banners, no memory of the lack of an outcry coz they are that ashamed
 
why do you think bobby went to so many sunderland games in his later years? by most accounts he was at sunderland way more than newcastle.
it's quite possible that he originally leaned towards newcastle but i don't think his support was the modern day type. i think he had a real soft spot for sunderland.

in the brief meeting i had with him i genuinely couldn't work out if he was a mag or not. he knew more about sunderland than half the f**kers on this board.

Most accounts from a Sunderland perspective though ?

He was at Newcastle continuously up until his death. I saw this with my own eyes. He quite possibly went to Sunderland a lot too. We play on alternate Saturdays after all.
 
Most accounts from a Sunderland perspective though ?

He was at Newcastle continuously up until his death. I saw this with my own eyes. He quite possibly went to Sunderland a lot too. We play on alternate Saturdays after all.

i don't know myself, that's why i asked. from various sources on both sides of the fence he attended more sunderland games than newcastle.
wasn't there a period when he wasn't welcome at newcastle at all? maybe not banned but unofficially certainly not welcome.

i personally don't think bobby was a die hard newcastle fan like the modern breed. he was probably more of a black and white than MON was a sunderland fan but little more.
By the end of his time i'm not sure there was much in it at all.

i think the newcastle fans and the club let him down badly and that's a real shame. Football management will always end in tears but i think what happened at newcastle really hurt bobby robson and tarnished how he viewed the club and fans. you couldn't really expect it not to in the circumstances.
From what ive heard he always got a great reception at sunderland when he came to the matches.
 
This thread always ends up going to the extreme. The truth of it is a large section of fans wanted him out and it undoubtedly hurt Bobby. It shouldn't be ignored that he was still well loved by lots up there as he was by most people in football. Newcastle was his team but he did have a soft spot for Sunderland. I'm never comfortable with point scoring over a dead man though.[DOUBLEPOST=1378676035][/DOUBLEPOST]
i don't know myself, that's why i asked. from various sources on both sides of the fence he attended more sunderland games than newcastle.
wasn't there a period when he wasn't welcome at newcastle at all? maybe not banned but unofficially certainly not welcome.

i personally don't think bobby was a die hard newcastle fan like the modern breed. he was probably more of a black and white than MON was a sunderland fan but little more.
By the end of his time i'm not sure there was much in it at all.

i think the newcastle fans and the club let him down badly and that's a real shame. Football management will always end in tears but i think what happened at newcastle really hurt bobby robson and tarnished how he viewed the club and fans. you couldn't really expect it not to in the circumstances.
From what ive heard he always got a great reception at sunderland when he came to the matches.


Well we did sing 'Bobby Robson pissed himself again' tbf
 
This thread always ends up going to the extreme. The truth of it is a large section of fans wanted him out and it undoubtedly hurt Bobby. It shouldn't be ignored that he was still well loved by lots up there as he was by most people in football. Newcastle was his team but he did have a soft spot for Sunderland. I'm never comfortable with point scoring over a dead man though.

Well said. It shouldn't need saying like but there you go.
 
i don't know myself, that's why i asked. from various sources on both sides of the fence he attended more sunderland games than newcastle.
wasn't there a period when he wasn't welcome at newcastle at all? maybe not banned but unofficially certainly not welcome.

i personally don't think bobby was a die hard newcastle fan like the modern breed. he was probably more of a black and white than MON was a sunderland fan but little more.
By the end of his time i'm not sure there was much in it at all.

i think the newcastle fans and the club let him down badly and that's a real shame. Football management will always end in tears but i think what happened at newcastle really hurt bobby robson and tarnished how he viewed the club and fans. you couldn't really expect it not to in the circumstances.
From what ive heard he always got a great reception at sunderland when he came to the matches.

I don't think he was a die hard either, he swayed more towards Newcastle but he came from an era where it was quite common to have a fondness for all North East teams. Also leaving the area as a young man meant he never would have had the same level of support as a common fan would.
I'm not so sure about this tarnished view of the club and fans. He was an intelligent man and I doubt that he would let a minority of supporters who called for his head overshadow the majority who didn't. Look how he was treat by England fans and the F.A, disgracefully but would he let this effect his patriotism and love for the national team ? of course not.
 
This thread always ends up going to the extreme. The truth of it is a large section of fans wanted him out and it undoubtedly hurt Bobby. It shouldn't be ignored that he was still well loved by lots up there as he was by most people in football. Newcastle was his team but he did have a soft spot for Sunderland. I'm never comfortable with point scoring over a dead man though.[DOUBLEPOST=1378676035][/DOUBLEPOST]


Well we did sing 'Bobby Robson pissed himself again' tbf
Your average bed sheet waving misspelled ranting mag will protest for many things

Yet when a manager if Sbr ability gets the bullet for finishing 6th not a whimper, not even a pillow case was fluttered not a shoe was waved

You have to wonder why
Is this bizarre decision incited mass non hysteria did they buy shepherds notion that sixth was too poor for nufc
 
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