Bob Murray


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Not according to Niall. Perhaps he was lying but he said at one of the talk-ins that Murray first suggested he should get some of his mates together to form a consortium, he then bent over backwards to help get the deal done and at a very reasonable price.

We have discussed this before and you know Niall made an approach, then Murray went back later.
 
Anyone capable of coming up with a few facts here?

Like;

  1. What was Murray's net personal worth when the PL was formed?
  2. What was Murray's net personal worth when we moved to the SSoL?
  3. What price did he pay for the club?
  4. What did he receive when selling the club?
  5. How much was invested in 'the team' during his stewardship?
Just out of interest like........
 
Absolute made up nonsense. The club was in such a state that we were virtually worthless. There was no other offers unless you could enlighten me to who they were from. As I've already said. He tried to sell to Cowie man but he wouldn't put the money up,

There were other offers made during his tenure.

You angry man.
 
Don't get me started.

The one thing I can never forgive him for is not even bothering to try to stay up during the 15 point season.

Everyone bangs on about the SoL and AoL but if he'd stayed and gotten what he wanted we'd have been playing in front of ten thousand near Nissan, if we were in business at all. He was pretty much forced into everything people think were his good decisions imho.
 
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Not so sure about that, especially not in his earlier days as chairman.

In his early days as a chairman he was preparing to go to court with Barry Batey who reckoned Cowies sale of SAFC to Murray was illegal. Hes hardly gonna pump his personal fortune into summit that couldve been taking away from him in a court case.

Although I agree the Nissan idea wouldve ruined SAFC, at the time the SOL site wasnt available was it? After Nissan a site just south of Doxford International was in the pipeline anarl, The Colonel Prior wouldve been the nearest boozer, that wouldve ruined SAFC anarl.
 
Don't get me started.

The one thing I can never forgive him for is not even bothering to try to stay up during the 15 point season.

Everyone bangs on about the SoL and AoL but if he'd stayed and gotten what he wanted we'd have been playing in front of ten thousand near Nissan, if we were in business at all. He was pretty much forced into everything people think were his good decisions imho.

So what's your opinion of Cowie then?
 
We have discussed this before and you know Niall made an approach, then Murray went back later.

Niall must have lied then. Strange. Al ask him why next time i get the chance. ;)

Don't get me started.

The one thing I can never forgive him for is not even bothering to try to stay up during the 15 point season.

Everyone bangs on about the SoL and AoL but if he'd stayed and gotten what he wanted we'd have been playing in front of ten thousand near Nissan, if we were in business at all. He was pretty much forced into everything people think were his good decisions imho.

Good decision imo cos Mic f***ing Mac certainly wasn't up to it. Why waste what little money he had?

Don't get me started.

The one thing I can never forgive him for is not even bothering to try to stay up during the 15 point season.

Everyone bangs on about the SoL and AoL but if he'd stayed and gotten what he wanted we'd have been playing in front of ten thousand near Nissan, if we were in business at all. He was pretty much forced into everything people think were his good decisions imho.

How dare they! :lol:
 
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Niall must have lied then. Strange. Al ask him why next time i get the chance. ;)



Good decision imo cos Mic f***ing Mac certainly wasn't up to it. Why waste what little money he had?

Bob Murray did NOT phone Niall Quinn out of the blue and ask for help. Niall phoned him at some earlier date and offered help and was told it was a bad, bad situation.
 
Anyone capable of coming up with a few facts here?

Like;

  1. What was Murray's net personal worth when the PL was formed?
  2. What was Murray's net personal worth when we moved to the SSoL?
  3. What price did he pay for the club?
  4. What did he receive when selling the club?
  5. How much was invested in 'the team' during his stewardship?
Just out of interest like........

I dunno, hope that helps.
 
He didn't want an academy? He had no input on the Sol? We should rip the gate down on Saturday like the fraudster!

As is well documented, he wanted a huge stadium at Nissan, which if it hadn't killed the club straight away would have done so over the next decade's repeated humiliations.

We had to build the AoL to qualify for Academy status, So the ten odd million that could have secured us in the top half of the table was spent in order to grow a Premier League team of our own players. We've had Henderson and Colback so far. Only another nine years til the dream comes true.

See, you've got me started. I'm stopping now.
 
As is well documented, he wanted a huge stadium at Nissan, which if it hadn't killed the club straight away would have done so over the next decade's repeated humiliations.

We had to build the AoL to qualify for Academy status, So the ten odd million that could have secured us in the top half of the table was spent in order to grow a Premier League team of our own players. We've had Henderson and Colback so far. Only another nine years til the dream comes true.

See, you've got me started. I'm stopping now.

:lol:
 
We had to build the AoL to qualify for Academy status, So the ten odd million that could have secured us in the top half of the table was spent in order to grow a Premier League team of our own players. We've had Henderson and Colback so far. Only another nine years til the dream comes true.

:lol:

What about Waghorn and Leadbitter? Them two alone have brought in, what, 6 million?

There's lads in the reserves and out on loan atm who have come through and if they don't make it here will bring in a bit of money. The Academy has paid for itself and then some.
 
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What about Waghorn and Leadbitter? Them two alone have brought in, what, 6 million?

There's lads in the reserves and out on loan atm who have come through and if they don't make it here will bring in a bit of money. The Academy has paid for itself and then some.

It was never about making money, it was about developing home grown youngsters into Premier League footballers for SAFC. That was the line spun out when we were crying out for investment on the pitch at that time in order to capitalise on the good fortune we had. The making money is a fortunate and not unwelcome side-effect but ultimately it's failed to deliver on what was promised thus far.

Another decision that worked out reasonably well not because of Murray's 'expertise' but, more likely, despite it.
 
It was never about making money, it was about developing home grown youngsters into Premier League footballers for SAFC. That was the line spun out when we were crying out for investment on the pitch at that time in order to capitalise on the good fortune we had. The making money is a fortunate and not unwelcome side-effect but ultimately it's failed to deliver on what was promised thus far.

Another decision that worked out reasonably well not because of Murray's 'expertise' but, more likely, despite it.

We are but even the very best academies don't roll off a side with every new generation.
 
It was never about making money, it was about developing home grown youngsters into Premier League footballers for SAFC. That was the line spun out when we were crying out for investment on the pitch at that time in order to capitalise on the good fortune we had. The making money is a fortunate and not unwelcome side-effect but ultimately it's failed to deliver on what was promised thus far.

Another decision that worked out reasonably well not because of Murray's 'expertise' but, more likely, despite it.

How many academies roll off more than 1 or 2 lads who play a part every 2 seasons?

Look at Chelsea, there's only really MChearan lad come through and he's out on loan. Arsenal buy them young and develop them, Liverpool have Gerrard, Carragher (pros now for 10+ years) and Kelly and Spearing. United occasionally blood 4 or 5 a season but you'd expect them to.
 
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