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Well that's a great system.
Totally flawless.
Let's look at Preston. They haven't played in the top flight for 60 years. They have an all time average attendance of 13k (38th highest in England), they have only 46 top flight season. But they have two league titles. 1889 and 1890.

Preston are just as big as Spurs using your system.
Tottenham have 85 top flight seasons, have spent 1 year outside the top flight in the last 70 years. Average attendance of 34k (4th highest in England). They have a stadium which sells out to 60k fans, but they've won two league titles.
Same as Preston.

Do you agree that Wolves, Huddersfield, Blackburn, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Newcastle and Aston Villa and Leeds are all bigger than Spurs?

Spurs on the same level as Preston, Derby, Burnley and Portsmouth.
Yes I do, finishing second is pointless you either win or you lose and finishing 2nd or 10th or whatever is not an achievement, you either win leagues and trophies or you don't.

Being a "big club" is just another excuse to try and find victory where nothing exists, it's like getting a participant rosette.

I actually used to believe in big clubs but I've since changed my mind.
 
Trophies won. Points won in top flight. Historical average attendances.

Top ten in all three categories can legitimately claim to be big clubs.
:lol::lol::lol::lol: Naaaah. Your close though.
As the auld 1930s Argentinian poet/writer/philosopher/political activist/ left back Alfredo Einsteinioni (Estudiantes, Betis, Torino, St Etienne, Ferrol, Argentines Juniors) theorised in his Manchester Guardian column at the time: “As the greatest distance fathomable by mankind is that between a football fans opinion of his clubs position in the footballing world and the rest of the worlds opinion of it. A formula is obviously required to put this shit to bed once and for all”. Man was he right and this is what he came up with. I believe his working out was shown but lost in the Manchester Guardians move to London.


Trophy points* x Top Flight Points + Historical Ave Attendance = Big Clubness Points.


* Trophy Points were evaluated by AE at 100,000 for EC/EL, 20,000 for D1/PL, 10,000 for FAC/EL 5,000 for ECWC/UEFA 2500 for LC etc???? Nowt for the rest as he hated the mags.
Obviously Trophy Points would need adjusting for time lapses since won. He was nee fool auld Alfredo. IE Prestons title wins over eleven regional clubs can’t carry the cache of Leicester’s recent PL win etc. He reckoned 10pts per year reduction since the trophy was won but that was the one piece of his big clubness jigsaw he wasn’t 100% about. But he died before his final formula adjustments could be made. Passing away while hunting escaped Nazis in the Argentinian hinterlands. A life lived was the verdict by all the thousands who lined the BA streets as his cortège passed. RIBCP.
 
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Yes I do, finishing second is pointless you either win or you lose and finishing 2nd or 10th or whatever is not an achievement, you either win leagues and trophies or you don't.

Being a "big club" is just another excuse to try and find victory where nothing exists, it's like getting a participant rosette.

I actually used to believe in big clubs but I've since changed my mind.

So just to be clear, you don't think Spurs are as big a club as Huddersfield or Blackburn and that they exist on the same level as Derby and Preston?
So just to be clear, you don't think Spurs are as big a club as Huddersfield or Blackburn and that they exist on the same level as Derby and Preston?

That should say, "aren't as big a club as Huddersfield or Blackburn"
 
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This utter horseshit about 'you either win trophies, or it's pointless' is fuckwittery of the highest order.

Football's a lot more about NOT winning things - which is the situation for the vast majority of clubs and fans. The aspiration to win things may always be there, but so is the acceptance that it's unlikely.
If it really was all about winning, then there'd be hardly any fans left, or they'd all be following a handful of clubs (and they're not).

One man's success is another's failure. One set of supporter's good season is another's bitter disappointment.

Given the longevity and popularity of football, and the disproportionate trophy haul by a relative few, it would suggest football is much much more than silverware.
 
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