Begovic on Fletch GIF


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Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
A player pulling his foot away after committing a foul isn't an excuse or a defence.
Oh and Fuck Off
 
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.

Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.

The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.

Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.

Laws of the Game: Penalty.
 
I agree we would probably be complaining if our keeper was sent off for that but, at the end of the day, that challenge anywhere else on the pitch is a free kick, whether he plays the ball or not. So it has to be a penalty. Red card, maybe not as there were other defenders around and as some have speculated, Shawcross might even be pointing this out to the ref

In the context of the earlier decision i think it's probably very fair that SAFC fans and officials are upset and going overboard. Roles reversed, same reaction. No?


I would fully expect a Sunderland Keeper to be sent off for that challenge and to concede a penalty and it wouldn't matter what decisions or context needed to be considered beforehand. It was a dangerous challenge made to look slightly less so only because Fletcher had the sense not to put his head there but to shy out of it. That doesn't make the challenge any less dangerous or change it from straight red. He didn't need to use his feet, he could have caught it and side checked Fletch no problem
 
Fletcher sees the keeper, bottles it, slips on the surface and starts to go down before the keeper here to the ball. The keeper does nothing wrong.

Except you are simply not allowed to challenge for the ball in that manner (i.e. studs up) in this day and age. Anywhere else on the pitch it is a free kick.
 
I would fully expect a Sunderland Keeper to be sent off for that challenge and to concede a penalty and it wouldn't matter what decisions or context needed to be considered beforehand. It was a dangerous challenge made to look slightly less so only because Fletcher had the sense not to put his head there but to shy out of it. That doesn't make the challenge any less dangerous or change it from straight red. He didn't need to use his feet, he could have caught it and side checked Fletch no problem

And this. No-one would have been surprised if Mannone had got a red for that. In fact, we'd have been calling Mannone worse than shit for such a stupid tackle.
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Anywhere else on the pitch and the ref would've gave a freekick to us imo saying that it was Friends so no he wouldn't
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.


yes he does marra....... but it's the part where he's flying through the air foot first at head height that people are taking issue with!
 
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.

Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.

The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.

Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.


The fact that you have the literacy skills to post on here I assume you can read. go and read LOAF
 
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.

Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.

The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.

Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.

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f***ing hell man he was in the box and can therefore use his hands, but no he jumps up chest high, studs showing.........clearly only reckless at a push :lol:
 
I would fully expect a Sunderland Keeper to be sent off for that challenge and to concede a penalty and it wouldn't matter what decisions or context needed to be considered beforehand. It was a dangerous challenge made to look slightly less so only because Fletcher had the sense not to put his head there but to shy out of it. That doesn't make the challenge any less dangerous or change it from straight red. He didn't need to use his feet, he could have caught it and side checked Fletch no problem

i wouldn't but perhaps i am still living in the past
 
What the fuck are you talking about? It's an unnecessary studs up high challenge at neck level in the box and you think it's not a penalty because Fletch protected himself rather than risk another serious injury. It's not often I put other posters down but that's the stupidest, thick as shit, pile of steaming dog doo that'll be posted on here tonight

Bollocks. Take off the biased specs he attacked the ball, fletcher cowered out and was already lying on the deck when begovic kicked the ball. No penalty.
If fletcher had continued his run and nicked the ball and then got cleaned out, penalty and straight red. You dont get penaltys for things that might have happened if such and such did so and so
 
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f***ing hell man he was in the box and can therefore use his hands, but no he jumps up chest high, studs showing.........clearly only reckless at a push :lol:

It's baffling that he goes in studs first when the ball is in the box and came from a Sunderland player so he could have used his hands.
 
I have done many times. Read it as many times as you want.

It's not a penalty, it's not a red card.

Move on.

Would you not agree that 90 times out of 100 that challenge, elsewhere on the pitch, would result in a free kick? As you acknowledge in another post it could be deemed reckless and i dare say would be deemed so by most current referees
 
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