Dan The Man
Striker
Regardless of the Brown challenge Begovic's challenge is still dangerous play
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A player pulling his foot away after committing a foul isn't an excuse or a defence.Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.
He's got every right to go for that.
Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
With his hands or head, yes.He's got every right to go for that.
You're a much kinder person than me.Just makes me even more angry
If Kevin Friend lived near me, I'd definitely shit on his doorstep.
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.
Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.
The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.
Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.
I agree we would probably be complaining if our keeper was sent off for that but, at the end of the day, that challenge anywhere else on the pitch is a free kick, whether he plays the ball or not. So it has to be a penalty. Red card, maybe not as there were other defenders around and as some have speculated, Shawcross might even be pointing this out to the ref
In the context of the earlier decision i think it's probably very fair that SAFC fans and officials are upset and going overboard. Roles reversed, same reaction. No?
Fletcher sees the keeper, bottles it, slips on the surface and starts to go down before the keeper here to the ball. The keeper does nothing wrong.
I would fully expect a Sunderland Keeper to be sent off for that challenge and to concede a penalty and it wouldn't matter what decisions or context needed to be considered beforehand. It was a dangerous challenge made to look slightly less so only because Fletcher had the sense not to put his head there but to shy out of it. That doesn't make the challenge any less dangerous or change it from straight red. He didn't need to use his feet, he could have caught it and side checked Fletch no problem
Anywhere else on the pitch and the ref would've gave a freekick to us imo saying that it was Friends so no he wouldn'tBegovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.
He's got every right to go for that.
Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.
He's got every right to go for that.
Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.
Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.
The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.
Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.
Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.
The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.
Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.
I would fully expect a Sunderland Keeper to be sent off for that challenge and to concede a penalty and it wouldn't matter what decisions or context needed to be considered beforehand. It was a dangerous challenge made to look slightly less so only because Fletcher had the sense not to put his head there but to shy out of it. That doesn't make the challenge any less dangerous or change it from straight red. He didn't need to use his feet, he could have caught it and side checked Fletch no problem
The fact that you have the literacy skills to post on here I assume you can read. go and read LOAF
What the fuck are you talking about? It's an unnecessary studs up high challenge at neck level in the box and you think it's not a penalty because Fletch protected himself rather than risk another serious injury. It's not often I put other posters down but that's the stupidest, thick as shit, pile of steaming dog doo that'll be posted on here tonight
f***ing hell man he was in the box and can therefore use his hands, but no he jumps up chest high, studs showing.........clearly only reckless at a push![]()
I have done many times. Read it as many times as you want.
It's not a penalty, it's not a red card.
Move on.
I have done many times. Read it as many times as you want.
It's not a penalty, it's not a red card.
Move on.