Begovic on Fletch GIF


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I don't understand. Fletcher pulls out and so does Begovic.

You were unfairly done on the red but don't go overboard. You'd be fuming if your keeper was sent off for that and conceded a penalty.

Begivic didn't pull out at all, in fact he lunged at it and hit it with the sole of his boot. The definition of a red card challenge.
 
I don't understand. Fletcher pulls out and so does Begovic.

You were unfairly done on the red but don't go overboard. You'd be fuming if your keeper was sent off for that and conceded a penalty.
Begovic has no right to put his foot (especially studs first) up there. In the box, use his hands, out of the box it's a header. Red card every time.
 
I don't understand. Fletcher pulls out and so does Begovic.

You were unfairly done on the red but don't go overboard. You'd be fuming if your keeper was sent off for that and conceded a penalty.

in the context of the refereeing decisions that preceded this one and if the ref was applying any sort of consistency it would have been a red.
 
I don't understand. Fletcher pulls out and so does Begovic.

You were unfairly done on the red but don't go overboard. You'd be fuming if your keeper was sent off for that and conceded a penalty.

because he saw the size 12 boot coming for his head and if you see his left foot gives way which im glad it did cos the consequences would have been horrendous if it hadnt.

and how the fk did begovic pull out?
 
Bekovic made contact with the ball before Fletcher, if the boot was on the other foot so too speak ( IE Mannone on Crouch) I would have been extremely annoyed if Mannone had decided not decided to attack ball.

I reckon ref was probably correct but Im not sure of rules
Aye but the point is, if Browns is a red how is this not?
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Out of control, high, studs showing. You could use that gif as a textbook example of a challenge where a player gets the ball but it's still a red card.

Brown was so far ahead of Adam it was an interception not a tackle.

So, fuck off.
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.

unfortunately it was cos the ref gave it and therefore if being consistent Begovic should have gone, in the split second he gets to see that challenge I can't understand how he can reach any other decision than a red given his decision re Brown
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.

The ref sets the standards during the game for whats accepted and what's not. If he sees Brown's as dangerous play (I have no idea why) then you cannot possibly argue due to the nature of the challenge that Begovic's wasn't dangerous play, whether he takes his foot away from Feltch once he's cleared the ball or whether he had to go for it or not.
 
It doesnt matter whether or not the Begovic incident is a pen or not in a general context, the fact is, is that the referee in sending off Brown, has set the bar as to what constitutes as 'dangerous'. Both Brown and Begovic 'won the ball', but Begovic, unlike Brown, made 'significant contact'. Therefore If Brown is given a red for no contact, Begovic should be hung from the rafters.

Browns contact on Adam was minimal, nothing 'malicious', simply a brush of thighs.
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Studs first challenge at neck height with both feet off the ground and not in control knowing there's another player challenging for the ball. If that doesn't match your definition of a dangerous challenge you need to seriously think again about your career and apply to be an FA Ref
 
Begovic clearly pulls his foot away from Fletcher after he's cleared the ball.

He's got every right to go for that.

Brown wasn't a red and neither was that. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Oh, so after he's gone in with his studs up he pulls out? That's alright then. It was also at chest height. He has every right to go for it with his head, or his hands and maybe with his studs down....he chose the cowardly option.

It's a red, no doubt about it.
 
I don't understand. Fletcher pulls out and so does Begovic.

You were unfairly done on the red but don't go overboard. You'd be fuming if your keeper was sent off for that and conceded a penalty.

I agree we would probably be complaining if our keeper was sent off for that but, at the end of the day, that challenge anywhere else on the pitch is a free kick, whether he plays the ball or not. So it has to be a penalty. Red card, maybe not as there were other defenders around and as some have speculated, Shawcross might even be pointing this out to the ref

In the context of the earlier decision i think it's probably very fair that SAFC fans and officials are upset and going overboard. Roles reversed, same reaction. No?
 
Referees referee a game to the laws of the game. If they make a mistake they make a mistake. They then don't referee a game to their own (often poor) standards and base their future decisions on previous decisions. They carry on to the letter of the law. Only fans do that after they've been wronged.

Red cards are for professional fouls and excessive force. 'Reckless' tackles are yellow's and nothing more.

The ref has sent Brown off for excessive force and he's dropped a bollock. Never excessive and never a red.

Begovic is not excessive force. Reckless maybe at a push.
 
Fletcher sees the keeper, bottles it, slips on the surface and starts to go down before the keeper here to the ball. The keeper does nothing wrong.
 
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