Beer Prices


If you drink but dont smoke or gamble its doable very easily
People at work are getting 15 quid greggs and mcdonalds deliveries because they're peckish

It is you are right. In fairness you said a while back you hardly go out so it’s also easy to soak up the price increase if that’s what you do.
10 years ago I'd be in my local for a few pints almost every evening after work. Apart from the odd special event, birthday or World Cup match, I can't remember the last time I was there on a "school night". Cost is one factor as is trying to drink less in general and most of my friends have now settled down with families. I don't want to be the sag git drinking alone too often - though the occasional solo session can be great fun.

It’s people who did what you did who the pubs rely on tbh. People who turn out once a month can easy be relaxed about paying a fiver a pint.
 
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It is you are right. In fairness you said a while back you hardly go out so it’s also easy to soak up the price increase if that’s what you do.


It’s people who did what you did who the pubs rely on tbh. People who turn out once a month can easy be relaxed about paying a fiver a pint.
Correct. There'll be nee pub for the once a monthers to go to before long.
 
Heineken own my local and have been tightening the thumbscrews for as long as i can remember with the barrel costs, seemingly oblivious or indifferent to what a typical punter in that locale is willing to pay.

It's getting daft now, and I do think we are sleepwalking towards the extinction of the local. Fifty quid odd a bar bill seems to be the norm if I go out for a few with the other half, and closer to a ton if it's a decent session. Completely unsustainable to do it more than a couple of times a month now. I don't even go out for a couple of social ones on a school night any more, as at 20 quid a pop they soon add up as well.
 
Correct. There'll be nee pub for the once a monthers to go to before long.
as long as we don't all head out at once :lol:
Heineken own my local and have been tightening the thumbscrews for as long as i can remember with the barrel costs, seemingly oblivious or indifferent to what a typical punter in that locale is willing to pay.

It's getting daft now, and I do think we are sleepwalking towards the extinction of the local. Fifty quid odd a bar bill seems to be the norm if I go out for a few with the other half, and closer to a ton if it's a decent session. Completely unsustainable to do it more than a couple of times a month now. I don't even go out for a couple of social ones on a school night any more, as at 20 quid a pop they soon add up as well.
Hardly sleep walking,we've known the pubs closing figures for a decade and i can't remember hearing it had stopped
There'll be less of them and they'll come and go as they have their few years in the sun then people go somewhere else etc . It's a vicious circle ,they build in margins to be open the next day but then people stop going in regular due to those margins
The lads were paying £15 for Cherry bakewell cocktails at christmas ,grown blokes !
People will stay go out and spend but budget for it i suppose
 
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It’s people who did what you did who the pubs rely on tbh. People who turn out once a month can easy be relaxed about paying a fiver a pint.

The pubs which are doing well have realised that they can't keep in business by relying on people (almost exclusively men) spending £50 in them every day as if it was their day car centre. They need to be more welcoming to women and families, a more interesting selections of beers/wines/spirits decent tea and coffee (not just a mug made from a catering pack) and better food choices - the huge growth in coffee shops over the past 10 years shows that there is still a market for people willing to spend money on food and drinks.
 
Local club has just kicked out Heineken brands for the price hike, so Fosters and John Smiths have gone.
Add the fact that they were also dropping the strength from 4.0 to 3.7 and 3.8 to 3.6 respectively.
The committee are quite a savvy lot these days, not the heavy drinker shouters of yesteryear and they basically put the choice to the suppliers,
keep the price rises to a minimum and we'll have it, be greedy and your gone. So they're gone.

There must be a huge markup on beer which is going somewhere.
 
Pubs in the UK are doomed, the next couple of years is going to be carnage, as the few survivors finally fall, only the great and good will survive. Sad indeed for those of us who remember a pub nearly every couple of hundred yards on a main street and on many back street corners.

Another bugbear for me, is pub opening times, for some reason many think the way to address falling demand is to open later, close earlier, close on Mondays/Tuesdays etc, I just don't get that at all.

Also apart from the prices, lifestyles have changed. I was in Edinburgh looking for an early pint Saturday gone, none of the pubs opened before 12, some even later than that, yet the coffee bars were bouncing. Its a sign of the times, students in the cities drinking coffee by day and going to the pub at 9pm on an evening, oh for the days when a group of mates could go to an away game or a pub crawl, and take it for granted that every pub would be open at 1030 or 11 and closing at 10 or 11, 6 days a week. Of course pubs then closed for 3 hours in the afternoon, but that gave you a chance to draw breath and have something to eat, and there was usually always a dodgy pub that stayed open if need be. Drinking in places like York back then was heaven, now it would be a nightmare to organise a pub crawl, unless you aren't fussy about where you drink. Some of the micro pubs just shut on a whim if there are no punters in, another reason why I rarely bother going out midweek these days.
 
The pubs which are doing well have realised that they can't keep in business by relying on people (almost exclusively men) spending £50 in them every day as if it was their day car centre. They need to be more welcoming to women and families, a more interesting selections of beers/wines/spirits decent tea and coffee (not just a mug made from a catering pack) and better food choices - the huge growth in coffee shops over the past 10 years shows that there is still a market for people willing to spend money on food and drinks.

Agreed, but those places aren’t what I class as pubs marra. Places full of cackling women drinking Proseccos and knackers buying lattes cease to be pubs imo. There’s a place for both imo.
 
It would be interesting to know what the big breweries really think and want. Killing off the on trade might be up their street as it will be a lot less hassle selling cans to supermarkets.
 
Heineken UK put their prices up 16th Jan2023 on average 15.8% on Draught and packaged products, and Black sheep to increase 19.5% at the end of this month
 

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