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BBC: Why is heroin killing so many people?

Discussion in 'SMB' started by Some Random Guy, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Boz33

    Boz33 Winger

    At 15k each a year iirc.
     
  2. Keawyeds

    Keawyeds Striker

  3. Lonz

    Lonz Striker

    UK drugs policy is absolute joke to be honest. The countries who've reformed in recent years have seen massive positive changes yet our government is too stubborn and scared to stick its head above the parapet.

    They're not even"radical" solutions, just common sense.
     
  4. Doggerland Mackem

    Doggerland Mackem Goalkeeper

    Cheaper than crime to pay for heroin.
     
  5. Space Hopper

    Space Hopper Midfield

    For the last few years I have been addicted to brake fuel. I can stop anytime.
     
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  6. Boz33

    Boz33 Winger

    Where's the incentive to give up? Or do we just put the addicts on free heroin for life?
     
  7. Lonz

    Lonz Striker

    Most don't want to be addicted.
     
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  8. Brake fuel? That the same as brake fluid?
     
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  9. Sir Lancelot

    Sir Lancelot Winger

    She is already on methadone and still takes heroin as well. If she seriously wanted to come off the heroin she would speak to her methadone prescriber to get the methadone increased so that she loses the urge for heroin.

    I know it’s not necessarily a simple solution but if someone won’t even take the first step to coming off heroin then why should anyone else care? No one comes off drugs unless they absolutely want to, you cannot force them to cease being addicted. They have to do the work and there is no easy way. The help is there to those who seek it, but the addict MUST want to stop, otherwise it’s just a waste of everyone’s time.
     
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  10. Boz33

    Boz33 Winger

    Give it up then? The problem is, if it's so easily available for free every day there's absolutely no incentive at all to give up.
     
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  11. Harry Angstrom

    Harry Angstrom Striker

    I read years ago that the punter was addicted to the rush of getting the money because what they bought was so cut there was virtually no narcotic in it.

    This. Sometimes life is cruel.
     
  12. Lonz

    Lonz Striker

    I don't think you understand the issue enough to comment if you think it's easy for people to "just give it up". Clearly, the idea is that it wouldn't be "freely" available in the sense that you could just walk in and get some whenever you fancied. You would, however, get a clean but managed dose and be supervised by a health professional.
     
  13. Keawyeds

    Keawyeds Striker

    State your reasons

    I see. And would these people then become functioning members of society?
     
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  14. Lonz

    Lonz Striker

    On a human level, people are dying because of lack of purity. They're also getting addicted to things like prescription opiates and moving on to harder stuff because they're dependent and heroin is easier to come by than your typical codeine prescription.

    It's also bloody expensive to combat. Why not legalise and regulate it? That way you can tax and manage the purity and take the money out of the criminal organisations' hands?

    More so than they are now.
     
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  15. Frijj

    Frijj Striker Contributor

    Give them heroin and there will be far less acquisitive crime. No brainer.
     
  16. FishburnMackem

    FishburnMackem Midfield

    It's almost like our government want to further separate people who make bad choices from those who make good choices.

    Oh...
     
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  17. Boz33

    Boz33 Winger

    They are getting a dose of medical grade heroin daily just by going...at a cost of 15k a year. Plus of course dole money, housing benefit and all.the other miriad of benefits no doubt available
    Why should I pull my pods off everyday to pay for those wankers. ...15k is around about what I paid in tax and ni last year. So my contribution to the uk is effectively shot up some druggies arm....maybe cheaper hiring hitmen
     
  18. Baghdad McBadLad

    Baghdad McBadLad Goalkeeper

    That Louis Theroux documentary in USA about said drug was hard to watch at times but just highlights how important our NHS and GPs are with 1 in 4 in a population of 49,000 being addicted to Opiums as soon as they stopped handing out prescription pills.
     
  19. Sir Lancelot

    Sir Lancelot Winger

    That’s why we have methadone. The methadone can be titrated so that the person doesn’t crave heroin but they have to be honest with their prescriber and tell them that they are still using. It really has to come from the addict.
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2017

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