Bardsley wanted by West Ham


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Decent enough player but doubt he'll stay, especially considering the money West Ham will offer him.
 
From where? The championship is full of journeymen.

Some of our fans are just morons like.[DOUBLEPOST=1397035164][/DOUBLEPOST]

Yeah wel you thought celutska was better. So I don't really trust your judgement mate.

So all up and coming young lads are journeymen? Give your head a shake.
 
I'm thick as pig shit then, along with a hell of a lot more supporters though i guess.

The players haven't been good enough, the culture and attitude from some of them has been shocking for so called professionals, we've nearly been relegated in previous 2 seasons and will be relegated this season. We need to let them go and rebuild again (hopefully with someone who knows what they are doing this time, because i agree the summer signings were shit).

Regardless of what you or i think, the board will sell anyone who they get a realistic offer for and won't renew contracts for players who are on massive money. Thats what relegation does to us. My concern is with the normal day to day staff who will lose their jobs, not the wankers who got us here

Now i'll fuck off, but we'll see where Bardsley ends up. It won't be here, because regardless of what you think he won't care and will go to whoever pays him most

We aren't getting relegated because of bardsley and cattermole's attitude are we, it is a complete myth. They are about the only 2 who come out with credit from this season.

People seem more intent on blaming the likes of Gardner and Larsson for example, than the actual players who play every week.

Gardner barely plays for us, but he gets more blame than Ki, who plays every week, and clearly hasn't give a shit for weeks.

It is a way of the Sunderland fan, if you have a foreign name you get off lightly.
 
So all up and coming young lads are journeymen? Give your head a shake.

up and coming young players cost money mate

wick ham cost 8 mill

that stones lad cost 2 mill

we won't have any money to spend

we already need a left back

where are we gonna find an up and coming right and left back for free?

They don't grown on trees mate.

I think people are being very naive about where will be able to attract players from and for what prices. Unless they are out of contract, what chance do we have?
 
I'm thick as pig shit then, along with a hell of a lot more supporters though i guess.

The players haven't been good enough, the culture and attitude from some of them has been shocking for so called professionals, we've nearly been relegated in previous 2 seasons and will be relegated this season. We need to let them go and rebuild again (hopefully with someone who knows what they are doing this time, because i agree the summer signings were shit).

Regardless of what you or i think, the board will sell anyone who they get a realistic offer for and won't renew contracts for players who are on massive money. Thats what relegation does to us. My concern is with the normal day to day staff who will lose their jobs, not the wankers who got us here

Now i'll fuck off, but we'll see where Bardsley ends up. It won't be here, because regardless of what you think he won't care and will go to whoever pays him most

Spot on. Would have been at Ipswich if he never broke his foot for the reserves.
 
We aren't getting relegated because of bardsley and cattermole's attitude are we, it is a complete myth. They are about the only 2 who come out with credit from this season.

People seem more intent on blaming the likes of Gardner and Larsson for example, than the actual players who play every week.

Gardner barely plays for us, but he gets more blame than Ki, who plays every week, and clearly hasn't give a shit for weeks.

It is a way of the Sunderland fan, if you have a foreign name you get off lightly.

Not for me, all of the players are jointly responsible for this season and i don't think anyone other than maybe Mannone comes out of it positively. The club can't rate Bardsley and Cattermole as highly as you then, because had it not been for Bardsleys injury or a replacement for Cattermole not coming off neither would be here now.

Its time to move on, i honestly won't be bothered if only Mannone and some of the younger players are left after the clear out. I'll accept it will be a nightmare next season, and might take a couple of seasons to come back but maybe thats the way it needs to be
 
Spot on. Would have been at Ipswich if he never broke his foot for the reserves.

Well we certainly wouldn't of been at Wembley would we.

Fuck knows how many points we would of had if he wasn't playing, easily been one of our best players

Only a few jokers on here, too much footy manager my friend.
 
Had a half decent season by his standards, a big part of the fucked up culture in our club, won't be missed.(by myself anyway)
 
up and coming young players cost money mate

wick ham cost 8 mill

that stones lad cost 2 mill

we won't have any money to spend

we already need a left back

where are we gonna find an up and coming right and left back for free?

They don't grown on trees mate.

I think people are being very naive about where will be able to attract players from and for what prices. Unless they are out of contract, what chance do we have?

The fact is the club have a losing mentality at present, and this comes with a group of players who have been here for years now.
I'm not sure how we can make assumptions about what money we will or won't have to spend. We simply don't know.
Obviously it won't be a vast fortune, but I'd be surprised if it was nothing.
Lets just wait and see. It's going to be a huge task, one which may take a few seasons, but any outward transfers that get rid of the cancer from the club are fine by me.
 
Not for me, all of the players are jointly responsible for this season and i don't think anyone other than maybe Mannone comes out of it positively. The club can't rate Bardsley and Cattermole as highly as you then, because had it not been for Bardsleys injury or a replacement for Cattermole not coming off neither would be here now.

Its time to move on, i honestly won't be bothered if only Mannone and some of the younger players are left after the clear out. I'll accept it will be a nightmare next season, and might take a couple of seasons to come back but maybe thats the way it needs to be

Well thank fuck they stayed, because we would probably be still in single figures.

The last bit is so so so naive, firstly we have no good youngsters, I watch them, and that DMK and Mavrias are absolutely horrendous

Secondly if we did that we would probably go to league 1

We have been mismanaged this year.

If we keep a base of players we can come back up, look at the mags and West Ham

The trick is don't panic, which is exactly what you aren't suggesting. If we did what you are suggesting we wouldn't come up for a long long ti,e
 
Not for me, all of the players are jointly responsible for this season and i don't think anyone other than maybe Mannone comes out of it positively. The club can't rate Bardsley and Cattermole as highly as you then, because had it not been for Bardsleys injury or a replacement for Cattermole not coming off neither would be here now.

Its time to move on, i honestly won't be bothered if only Mannone and some of the younger players are left after the clear out. I'll accept it will be a nightmare next season, and might take a couple of seasons to come back but maybe thats the way it needs to be

Again, very fair points.[DOUBLEPOST=1397036528][/DOUBLEPOST]
Well we certainly wouldn't of been at Wembley would we.

Fuck knows how many points we would of had if he wasn't playing, easily been one of our best players

Only a few jokers on here, too much footy manager my friend.

Not at all. Been here for years. We have been on the steady decline a he has started most games within this period. Never been a fan of his professionalism or ability.
 
Just isn't suited to how Poyet wants his fullbacks to play. Get rid

Nobody is suited to the way Poyet plays, the blokes a joke.

Even his golden boy Bridcutt isn't suited to the way he plays

I'd also like to say I have absolutely no idea how he wants us to play..

If you told me how Poyet aims to score a goal, I have fuckin no idea.[DOUBLEPOST=1397036611][/DOUBLEPOST]
Again, very fair points.[DOUBLEPOST=1397036528][/DOUBLEPOST]

Not at all. Been here for years. We have been on the steady decline a he has started most games within this period. Never been a fan of his professionalism or ability.

You are just completely missing the point

I will repeat again, you thought Celutska was better

Says it all.
 
Wonder what the odds are on us replacing him with a Brighton full back.
 
Again, very fair points.[DOUBLEPOST=1397036528][/DOUBLEPOST]

Not at all. Been here for years. We have been on the steady decline a he has started most games within this period. Never been a fan of his professionalism or ability.

Can't believe people are trying to defend some of this lot after what we've been through for 3 seasons. I also can't believe some people expect players like Bardsley / Colback etc. to want to stay when there is big money / signing on fees on offer elsewhere. The culture has to change for us to get back from the championship imo, and part of that is getting rid of these so called "pro's" who have got us to this point
 
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