Bardo actually quite good...post if you dare.


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Bardo is a very limited footballer and we should seek better. Not going to debate it, he may or may not be the best right back at the club. Even if he is, he is still terrible. Too often lumps aimless balls up the pitch, its a blessing when he does though. Rather give it away up the park than his rubbish 5 yard passes that go astray, in defence/midfield putting us on the back foot. That enough of a bite for you?

In a nutshell.

He is the only right back we have at the club and is of mid table Premiership quality.
He is not the problem...

Tidied.
 
We will improve the right back spot by signing a better midfield player in January. This will free Gardner to make the position his own.

I agree with your initial premise, but not necessarily with the reason.

Signing a creative central midfield player will enable Larsson to move back to his natural wide right position in midfield. Bardsley and Larsson developed a quire effective partnership for part of last season, whereas Johnson does not have the same defensive instincts as Larsson and therefore doesn't provide Bardsley with the same support.

I have defended Bardsley on here many times. However, I accept that he is not the best right-back in the world and he is probably not even the best right-back we could have at the club. But is right-back really a priority area for improvement via the transfer market ? I don't think so. It is difficult to accept that SAFC signing a new right back will result in the goals flowing, which has been the real problem this season.
 
I agree with your initial premise, but not necessarily with the reason.

Signing a creative central midfield player will enable Larsson to move back to his natural wide right position in midfield. Bardsley and Larsson developed a quire effective partnership for part of last season, whereas Johnson does not have the same defensive instincts as Larsson and therefore doesn't provide Bardsley with the same support.

I have defended Bardsley on here many times. However, I accept that he is not the best right-back in the world and he is probably not even the best right-back we could have at the club. But is right-back really a priority area for improvement via the transfer market ? I don't think so. It is difficult to accept that SAFC signing a new right back will result in the goals flowing, which has been the real problem this season.

Have you never watched a good side play football in the last 5 years? Full Backs are more important than ever when it comes to attacking. They should provide extra width that stretches defences and leaves gaps in behind. They should offer support for the winger, not by standing behind them but by going past them in to the space. They exploit the space created by wingers drifting inside or being marked heavily.

Look at how much of a threat Rose is down the left and side and then ask yourself if we would create and score more with an equal threat down the right hand side. A central midfielder is top priority, but a right back is a very close second.
 
I agree with the OP. I think broadly he is the best we are going to get, and given our precarious position i'd rather have someone who is very solid defensively even if we do have to put up with some of his weaknesses. I do agree he too often lumps the ball up the field and too infrequently overlaps.

I think blaming Bardsley for our failings is incredibly naive. The fault in our team lies in the notion that we are four seperate teams playing in the four seperate positions. A lot of passes are between the defenders, and between the midfielders but theres nothing incisive, nothing direct. I think the main weakness is in the central midfield (as many on here have noted). The criticism of Colback and McClean is deserved. However Colback is at his best when he is actively seeking the ball from the centre backs, turning then looking to play it forward. We need a Gary Neville or a Paul Scholes type player to really grab the game by the neck. Its why we look so weak when Cattermole doesnt play.

Sort this out, then move on to the other areas of weakness.
 
he's not really any better or worse than the quality of bramble, kilgallon, colback, vaughan, gardner, meyler, wickham, ji etc etc

competent at times, poor at times, occasionally impressive

like most of our squad then really. can't understand the shite he gets compared to others.

him and colback get slaughtered when really they are just middle of the pack of an underperforming squad
 
The original poster lost all creditability when discussing Right Backs for the simple fact he didn't even know Maicon played in the Prem. He obviously follows football really closeley and concentrates on Rgith Backs - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
The original poster lost all creditability when discussing Right Backs for the simple fact he didn't even know Maicon played in the Prem. He obviously follows football really closeley and concentrates on Rgith Backs - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

And you lose all credibility due to your inability to spell (or indeed type).
 
he's not really any better or worse than the quality of bramble, kilgallon, colback, vaughan, gardner, meyler, wickham, ji etc etc

competent at times, poor at times, occasionally impressive

like most of our squad then really. can't understand the shite he gets compared to others.

him and colback get slaughtered when really they are just middle of the pack of an underperforming squad

I think the difference is that Bardsley and Colback are first team regulars (Gardner is too but he got plenty of stick last year) where as, the rest that you've mentioned are squad players at best, some of who also still have time to develop.
 
Rank average. Occasionally does something really well, slightly more often fucks up badly, most of the time does the basics fine, but no more than that.
 
I think the difference is that Bardsley and Colback are first team regulars (Gardner is too but he got plenty of stick last year) where as, the rest that you've mentioned are squad players at best, some of who also still have time to develop.

are the players to blame for being in the first team then?

edit: and tbf wickham gets slaughtered most of the time, as well as gardner and pretty much everyone bar mignolet & fletcher
 
Since Bardsley arrived there have been several attempts to replace him but all of those attempts have resulted in & Bardsley regaining his place & the player leaving having made little impact.

The reason for this is that he is a better full back than he is given credit for & is nowhere near as easy to replace as the anti-Bardsley propagandists would have us believe.

Would he be 1st choice in a top 8 team. Of course not but we'd still need players at his level as squad players if we ever hope to challenge the top 8.
 
Since Bardsley arrived there have been several attempts to replace him but all of those attempts have resulted in & Bardsley regaining his place & the player leaving having made little impact.

The reason for this is that he is a better full back than he is given credit for & is nowhere near as easy to replace as the anti-Bardsley propagandists would have us believe.

Would he be 1st choice in a top 8 team. Of course not but we'd still need players at his level as squad players if we ever hope to challenge the top 8.

The reason for this is that we've never tried to replace him with a full back I'd say. And Gardner is better there in my opinion.
 
Bardsley is rank average and comparing him to other right backs that we've had is a pointless exercise as they too weren't the best. He needs replacing but he is a decent squad player.
 
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