Bardo actually quite good...post if you dare.


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I agree with you but who can we realistically get who's better? pretty much noone from your list. So who? and if you have 10 million in Jan do you buy an RB? Who?

I just don't think it's as easy as everyone makes out....'ohhh I hate Bardo cos everyone says he's shyte. we must ditch him now and play anyone else there' This is a fools idea. He's not that bad and he doesn't need replacing immediately. As you admit.... it's quite easy to be a better team than us with players at RB worse the Bardsley.

We would be a much better team if we both fullbacks overlapped, which would make it harder for teams to double up on our wingers. Rose has been doing that more and more but Bardsley never will and his hopeless punts up the field that needlessly give possession away will never stop, regardless of what we do with our midfield. We could sign Pirlo and Scholes and he'd still punt it forward.

He's actually poor defensively too, most seem to overlook that because he tries hard and throws himself into tackles but his positional sense and awareness from set pieces is poor (notably in the 5-1 derby defeat), he'll allow wingers onto their stronger foot regularly (the worst example being against Wolves the season before last at our place, where he showed him down the line and then kept backing off and gave Jarvis all the time in the world to pick out Fletcher at the far post for an easy goal).

I am not advocating selling him, as he's fine for back up but he we really need to replace him in the starting line up asap, it wouldn't necessarily cost a big chunk of our budget either, as Rose came in and he will have cost less than Richardson.

There are plenty of right backs about that would give us more than Bardsley, Fanni, Debuchy, Jantschke, Naughton, Matthews, Sorg, Alderweireld, Rangel, Torosidis, Corchia, Odoi, etc, etc.

:):):) Give it up, Ten Trenches Deep.

It doesn't matter if we have major problems in the midfield and can't score, RB is the reason we are where we are and is a priority to sort.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is first choice right back because Gardner is better at that position.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is relatively good defensively because he is woeful at distribution and is gash going forward even though he contributes goals (which Rose has yet to do).

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is made captain by two successive managers because he's their third choice after all.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley was player of the year because it is voted on by people who don't know football and reward effort over quality.

It doesn't matter what positive arguments you put forward, you won't sway the opinions of the anti-Bardsley brigade. They've fingered the real weak link in the squad and the scapegoat for our performances over the past year. The rest of us just haven't caught up with them yet :)

Bardsley is only at the club because the replacements various managers have signed have either not settled or we couldn't sign permanently. Onuoha, Hutton, Chimbonda and Angeleri.
 
We will improve the right back spot by signing a better midfield player in January. This will free Gardner to make the position his own.
 
Can't cross a ball and his passing is shocking, no thank you

They are all current Premier League players.

Why does it have to be someone from the Premier League? He's simply not good enough, the fact he tries hard is all well and good but right back is a serious problem for us. The success of Rose at left back highlights that it's not that hard to get an improvement.

This, just because he is the best (only) right back we have had your years doesn't mean he is any good.

I would play Larrson and Gardner ahead of him from our current squad.
 
:):):) Give it up, Ten Trenches Deep.

It doesn't matter if we have major problems in the midfield and can't score, RB is the reason we are where we are and is a priority to sort.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is first choice right back because Gardner is better at that position.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is relatively good defensively because he is woeful at distribution and is gash going forward even though he contributes goals (which Rose has yet to do).

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is made captain by two successive managers because he's their third choice after all.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley was player of the year because it is voted on by people who don't know football and reward effort over quality.

It doesn't matter what positive arguments you put forward, you won't sway the opinions of the anti-Bardsley brigade. They've fingered the real weak link in the squad and the scapegoat for our performances over the past year. The rest of us just haven't caught up with them yet :)

far from anti-bardo here.
i fail to see exactly what he is doing that is so different to when he won player of the year...a defender is there to stop the 'enemy' getting the ball into the box, hopefully, without fouling him or to hoof the ball away from the danger area, not a great deal gets past him he does not dive in (which a defender should never do) and he knows the difference between making a risky pass around his own 18 yard box or hitting row z.
it is no coincidence that the past couple of games when he has been allowed to get forward more we have played better, created more chances and AJ/sess have looked better.
JOS, with all his experience at the top of the premier and euro football is far more of a liability lately, far too many fouls caused by a complete lack of pace and bad reading of the game.
i guess the same people advocating getting rid of bardo are the same ones that not too long ago were shouting to be rid of catts as he was a liability but are now bemoaning every game we dont have him in the squad.
 
He's been decent for SAFC and is ok for where we are at the minute imo. He's had some good games for us and some awful ones, like everyone on our books I'd imagine.

In the games he's played this season he's been pretty shite mind.
 
He's a solid, mid-table Premier League right back and, ignoring our current form(although acknowledging it probably strengthens my argument), we are a solid, mid-table, Premier League team. We have far more important areas to concentrate on over the next year or 2!
 
Bardsley is a competent premier league footballer.

He is strong in the tackle, willing to get forward, tenacious and has a tremendous work rate. He also has a pretty good shot on him.

He is let down at times by his passing and crossing.

We should always be looking to improve the squad and it wouldn't hurt to have some real competition for the RB slot, but Bardsley is a decent, reliable player.

Gardner is perhaps a better option, but given our lack of decent midfieldersd he cant be spared atm.


Some morons always need somebody to boo though, eh?

Give it up, Ten Trenches Deep.

It doesn't matter if we have major problems in the midfield and can't score, RB is the reason we are where we are and is a priority to sort.
It doesn't matter if Bardsley is first choice right back because Gardner is better at that position.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is relatively good defensively because he is woeful at distribution and is gash going forward even though he contributes goals (which Rose has yet to do).

It doesn't matter if Bardsley is made captain by two successive managers because he's their third choice after all.

It doesn't matter if Bardsley was player of the year because it is voted on by people who don't know football and reward effort over quality.

It doesn't matter what positive arguments you put forward, you won't sway the opinions of the anti-Bardsley brigade. They've fingered the real weak link in the squad and the scapegoat for our performances over the past year. The rest of us just haven't caught up with them yet :)



Jesus wept!

Never mind the lack of fight, lack of movement and the fact that we seem to have no real plan going forward; lets blame it all on the RB!!! :oops:

He is abysmal.

George McCartney (2nd time) was abysmal; Bardsley is average/ok
 
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Decent enough squad player but he really shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place every week. He is utter dross going forward, and while he does have his frailties defensively (namely marking the man on the back post) he's certainly not the worst in that area.

It says more about our squad than Bardsley himself that he's not our biggest priority to replace. He'll do for the rest of the season but we could really do with bringing in someone a lot better in the summer.
 
He's not good enough. There is a myth that he is poor going forward but solid defensively which is simply not true. He's poor defensively as well.

His positioning is poor which usually allows a winger too much space in behind him. He goes to one extreme or the other - either standing too far off and allowing his opponent all of the time in the world to cross or diving in and committing a foul (although he is better at this now than the 2009/2010 season when he averaged 2 fouls a game). His passing is awful, his crossing is wasteful and he lacks pace but the most frustrating thing for me is his decision making.

People have allowed the odd screamer to mask how bad a decision it is for him to shoot most of the time and how often he is wasting an attacking opportunity. For example, last season, Bardsley had 26 shots, 4 of which were on target and only 1 that went in. So we had the ball in an attacking position on 26 occasions and Bardsley wasted 25 of them. 22 times he never even forced the keeper to make a save. 1 great goal doesn't justify him breaking down most of our attacks.

As for other right backs in the league, I'm not even going to mention the obvious Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal ones. QPR have Bosingwa, Reading have Gunter, Southampton have Clyne, Villa have Lowton, Newcastle have Simpson, Fulham have Riether all of whom are better than Bardsley.

The role of a right back is far more important now than it was when we had Makin. A modern day right back has to be able to distribute the ball well, they have to be able to overlap, they have to be able to cross and they have to have the pace not to get caught out at the back when trying to go forward. Danny Rose is everything a modern full back should be, and everything Bardsley is not.
 
He is part of the wider problem at SAFC but not part of the immediate one.
 
Bardo is just another scapegoat for the twisty fuckers who like to get on someones back. He is not better or worse than most of our players.

I wouldn't take what you read on here as what the majority of match going fans think.

FFS some on here still slag Cattermole off... the 'he can't pass' one is my personal favourite :roll:
 
Seriously, Bardo comes in for a lot of stick on here despite being a former player of the year. I'm ever more convinced that most clowns who say this have little or no perspective on SAFC or RBs.

In the top flight the only proven RB we've had in the last 20 yrs was Chris Makin. He crossed the half way line with an oxygen mask and his lack of shooting or scoring earned him a chant that would erupt from the stands if he got 40 yards up from his own goal line of 'shooooooooooot'. He never made a decisive pass, never beat a man and never supported forward runs. Yet he became a legend.

Why was this? because he never let a man beat him at RB. Sure the ball might go past but we all knew the man never did. We'd regularly concede free kicks but we never cared and we came 7th twice.

Compared with this, Bardoi is class. He scores, he tackles and comes away with the ball, he can make a pass (sometimes very good), he can (at times) cross, he gives away fewer free kicks, he's totally committed. He is a defender when considering this information.

He is far in excess of players we've had in the past.

Post here if you can think of players we've had who are better than him in that position and justify your decision.

Generally when he plays, he is one of the main reasons that our attacking moves breakdown. He is also one if the biggest cowards on the pitch at times - always turns his back on a throw in or when the keeper has a chance for a quick pass.
 
Bardo is just another scapegoat for the twisty fuckers who like to get on someones back. He is not better or worse than most of our players.

I wouldn't take what you read on here as what the majority of match going fans think.

FFS some on here still slag Cattermole off... the 'he can't pass' one is my personal favourite :roll:

All of this.
 
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