Bardo actually quite good...post if you dare.


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I agree with the OP. I think broadly he is the best we are going to get, and given our precarious position i'd rather have someone who is very solid defensively even if we do have to put up with some of his weaknesses. I do agree he too often lumps the ball up the field and too infrequently overlaps.

I think blaming Bardsley for our failings is incredibly naive. The fault in our team lies in the notion that we are four seperate teams playing in the four seperate positions. A lot of passes are between the defenders, and between the midfielders but theres nothing incisive, nothing direct. I think the main weakness is in the central midfield (as many on here have noted). The criticism of Colback and McClean is deserved. However Colback is at his best when he is actively seeking the ball from the centre backs, turning then looking to play it forward. We need a Gary Neville or a Paul Scholes type player to really grab the game by the neck. Its why we look so weak when Cattermole doesnt play.

Sort this out, then move on to the other areas of weakness.

Well that's complete bollocks isn't it? I mean anyone who is defensively solid wouldn't be at fault for two of our three goals yesterday.

I've said in the past that he's a squad player at best, I'm now thinking that's not even true.

He's shit and should be no where near the 1st team.

If Bardsley is a good, solid, mid-table Premier League full back then I take it Danny Rose is captain and the greatest full back ever for Universe XI?

We have a young kid on loan from a team that finished 4th last season, who has been a winger for a lot of his career and has only recently been converted to left back, that is 10 times the player that Bardsley is.

Phil Bardsley is Championship standard through and through.

He can't pass. He can't go forward. His crosses go higher than they go far. His positioning is terrible, it's either stand on the central defenders' toes and leave a gaping hole at right back or ball watch and leave his man at the back post. He is always too tight or giving the opposition too much space. He gives the ball away consistently with aimless hoofs as he shits his pants under and kind of remote pressure.

There is no doubt that he committed and likes a sliding tackle and fist pump but, ha'way, honestly, he is terrible.

Well said that man.
 
You should be embarrassed. You probably aren't tho.

Not sure why I should be embarrassed. Not as if I've been so far up his arse for months that I can tickle his tonsils with my nose.

All I did was post a statistic. :confused: No good lashing out at me mate.
 
Thank you Bardo for humiliating me today.....

I don't think he's good enough but I also don't think he's our biggest problem and can actually play well for us at times(the whole point of my thread). I certainly wouldn't spunk my January transfer money on a replacement for him.

However, Bardo has outdone himself in the immediate game (today) after my initial post, to prove my quite reasonable assessment appear uttely deluded.

I can only apologise to the SMB and curse Bardo for giving a truely terrible performance the day after I try to claim he does his best to prove me wrong not that terrible. in order to make me look like an utter kernt.

Perhaps the Robot will now close this thread and take pity on me.

When? Name games. Stop digging man....
 
Seriously, Bardo comes in for a lot of stick on here despite being a former player of the year. I'm ever more convinced that most clowns who say this have little or no perspective on SAFC or RBs.

In the top flight the only proven RB we've had in the last 20 yrs was Chris Makin. He crossed the half way line with an oxygen mask and his lack of shooting or scoring earned him a chant that would erupt from the stands if he got 40 yards up from his own goal line of 'shooooooooooot'. He never made a decisive pass, never beat a man and never supported forward runs. Yet he became a legend.

Why was this? because he never let a man beat him at RB. Sure the ball might go past but we all knew the man never did. We'd regularly concede free kicks but we never cared and we came 7th twice.

Compared with this, Bardoi is class. He scores, he tackles and comes away with the ball, he can make a pass (sometimes very good), he can (at times) cross, he gives away fewer free kicks, he's totally committed. He is a defender when considering this information.

He is far in excess of players we've had in the past.

Post here if you can think of players we've had who are better than him in that position and justify your decision.

makin went forward to support his midfielder and the reason we used to shoult shoot is because he always, teo or three times a game, would put it on his left and shoot from distance.

Bardo makes decisive tackles and blocks and key headers. He's awful goign forward. he was utter - utter shit yesterday though and gardner is a better full back.
 
He is shit. At fault for 2 of the goals and was getting skinned time and time again. He offers nothing, like Larsson in the middle.
 
Not sure why I should be embarrassed. Not as if I've been so far up his arse for months that I can tickle his tonsils with my nose.

All I did was post a statistic. :confused: No good lashing out at me mate.

Lashing out? :lol:

Couple of quotes where i've said he's out more than an an average premier league full back? 3 should do. :lol:
 
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Lashing out? :lol:

Couple of quotes where i've said he's out more than an an average premier league full back? 3 should do. :lol:

You're hurting. We can all see it. Like a child realising Santa doesn't exist, you are realising the Phil Bardsley you have championed for so long - the decent, solid enough 'average Premier League full back' - doesn't actually exist after all.

Your world has collapsed and we are trying to be here for you. Don't hide behind laughy smilies. They don't mask your pain. Let us in. LET US IN!! :-(
 
You're hurting. We can all see it. Like a child realising Santa doesn't exist, you are realising the Phil Bardsley you have championed for so long - the decent, solid enough 'average Premier League full back' - doesn't actually exist after all.

Your world has collapsed and we are trying to be here for you. Don't hide behind laughy smilies. They don't mask your pain. Let us in. LET US IN!! :-(

Jesus christ. You are dad n'arl aren't ye? :lol:

You not found those quotes yet?

Edit: i have the worst hangover ever by the way.
 
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Jesus christ. You are dad n'arl aren't ye? :lol:

You not found those quotes yet?

Edit: i have the worst hangover ever by the way.

Yup, I am a dad. Hence my compassion for a naive young fool who is trying to come to terms with the collapse of his beliefs. ;)
 
Am happy about the young comment like. Ta.:-D

Unconditional hero-worship tends to denote youth and naivety, so I always really hoped you were a young'un who'd wise up eventually. :lol: ;)
 
i guess the same people advocating getting rid of bardo are the same ones that not too long ago were shouting to be rid of catts as he was a liability but are now bemoaning every game we dont have him in the squad.

I never understand these arguments. The only link between opinions on Cattermole and Bardsley are in your head to try and convince yourself you're right. Some people will dislike both players, some people will like both players while others will rate one but not the other.

But I guess the people who post twisted logic like this were the same ones who rated Danny Collins. ;)
 
far from anti-bardo here.
i fail to see exactly what he is doing that is so different to when he won player of the year...a defender is there to stop the 'enemy' getting the ball into the box, hopefully, without fouling him or to hoof the ball away from the danger area, not a great deal gets past him he does not dive in (which a defender should never do) and he knows the difference between making a risky pass around his own 18 yard box or hitting row z.
it is no coincidence that the past couple of games when he has been allowed to get forward more we have played better, created more chances and AJ/sess have looked better.
JOS, with all his experience at the top of the premier and euro football is far more of a liability lately, far too many fouls caused by a complete lack of pace and bad reading of the game.
i guess the same people advocating getting rid of bardo are the same ones that not too long ago were shouting to be rid of catts as he was a liability but are now bemoaning every game we dont have him in the squad.

I can't actually believe you're defending Bardsley but slagging O'Shea for having a 'bad reading of the game' :lol:

'Not a great deal gets past him' :lol:
 
It's weird how you interpret "decent" as hero worship. He's better than Stephen Wright. ;)

It's more you impassioned defence of his every time someone tries to say he is shite on here that I interpret as hero worship. Just about everyone gets we have gets called shit on here sometime or another and you don't leap to their defence.

Anyway, 'decent'? Not so long ago you were insisting he was a good top half right back!
 
The third goal was a shocker even by Bardo standards. We are in bottom 3 because of players like Bardo, Marty clearly fancies him though.
 
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