AV - whats the crack?


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But by not using up all your preferences you are handing away the level playing field. Sod that.

I've no interest in voting for random candidates.

That is your choice. Some people will have a 2nd or 3rd choice. That is their choice.

AV caters for both people. FPTP caters for only one.
 
But why would I want to elect somebody who I deemed to be inferior to my preferred candidate?

I quite like the SNP, but bloody hate the Conservative party, under AV I will vote SNP, Labour, Lib Dem, Green. That way, if my preferred candidate doesn't win, my next favourite has a chance to win and the Conservative has less chance of winning.
 
Thats how i see it. I've no intention of voting for more than one candidate. So i don't want other people voting for more than one either.

What if the BNP had 2 candidates running?

Will this actually make any practical difference?

Yes.

The Lib Dems were a lot of people's second choice in the last election. AV would have allowed disillusioned tories and labour voters to register that point. As it stood, people revert to type at the ballot box, so all the will towards Lib Dems counted for nought.
 
Richard Lionheart said:
Thats how i see it. I've no intention of voting for more than one candidate. So i don't want other people voting for more than one either.

But it's fair for my mp to have been voted in by 30% of the people and 70% dont want him

The current system is shit this new one is not perfect but it's better
 
Then i'd vote for the best one.

What if the BNP had 2 candidates in a 3 horse race, and the other candidate was from Islam4UK?

Under FPTP, you could only tell the ballot box that you liked Nat Racistbut (BNP), whereas in reality you'd be happy if Helena Handcart (BNP) got in just as long as that kept Mohammed Terrifying (I4UK) out.

Under AV, you could tell the ballot box that you actually liked both BNP candidates, thus helping to keep Mohammed Terrifying all unemployed and angry.
 
What if the BNP had 2 candidates in a 3 horse race, and the other candidate was from Islam4UK?

Under FPTP, you could only tell the ballot box that you liked Nat Racistbut (BNP), whereas in reality you'd be happy if Helena Handcart (BNP) got in just as long as that kept Mohammed Terrifying (I4UK) out.

Under AV, you could tell the ballot box that you actually liked both BNP candidates, thus helping to keep Mohammed Terrifying all unemployed and angry.

You can't vote for Islam4UK.
 
So who has this in the world and who actually wants to keep it..............
 
the streaker said:
So who has this in the world and who actually wants to keep it..............

Only three countries but that means nowt. It's like saying if all countries have a dictator then so should we.
 
Only three countries but that means nowt. It's like saying if all countries have a dictator then so should we.


Yes it does.............it speaks absolute volumes as all three want shot of it.................
 
the streaker said:
Yes it does.............it speaks absolute volumes as all three want shot of it.................

Fair point but still think it's better than current crap system.

And if it's good enough to elect the leaders of the parties why not good enough for us.

It's not perfect but the current system is utter shite.
 
the comparisons of AV to sporting events in the sun last week were funny as fuck
 
Fair point but still think it's better than current crap system.

And if it's good enough to elect the leaders of the parties why not good enough for us.

It's not perfect but the current system is utter shite.

Its more than a fair point mate........yes there might be something better but its certainly not something all of three countries have who all want shot of it and which the those who vote in the vast manjority dont even understand what the system is they are voting for let alone how it works if its sucessful............
 
Its more than a fair point mate........yes there might be something better but its certainly not something all of three countries have who all want shot of it and which the those who vote in the vast manjority dont even understand what the system is they are voting for let alone how it works if its sucessful............

The information is out there, you can lead a horse to water and all that.

Though the No campaigners are doing a fine job at making it seem complicated and scary. Politics of fear, the old faithful.
 
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