AV - whats the crack?


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The BNP are against it, as it'll be harder for them to get elected (as they need 50% of people to find the acceptable)

Yes the Libs will get more seats (which the do deserve, 25% of votes but 9% of seats?), but it doesn't mean that coalitions will happen every time. You'd probably get one once every 20/30 years just like now.

BTW - The tories are against it as they'd lose the most seats even though Cameron was elected Tory leader by AV

Problem I have mate is that the tories / labour party could havethe vast majority of seats yet a shit like Clegg can come along and hold the balance of power. Every 100 years I can live with but every election no.
 
the streaker said:
Who ever said it was ?

You argued long and hard for the yes decsion and it was a part of your argument for the justification of the second vote ever taking place....................

How many countries in the world have AV and what percentage of them want shot of it..?

Speaks volumes and even the EU wouldnt dare argue for a rerun...............

You are wrong. I voted Yes twice on Lisbon, but it was wrong that we had to vote again. Debate the point at hand and stop inventing things. It does you no favours.
 
We are millions of miles away on politics (and as your last paragraph shows you spout some bollicks! :-D) but at least we agree on this.

Cameron is a sh(t but I have a lot more respect for him than Clegg.

In allowing the tories to do what they have done (without a mandate) the liberals should be wiped out at the next election if there is any justice. AV wouldnt allow that and thats why Im voting No.

Its bollocks mate and the last paragraph isnt any of then anyway................. ;)

Whoever got the most seats at the last election got a mandate to form a government and I presume had it been with gormless gordon you wouldnt be spouting " bollicks" regarding a "lack of mandate"............
 
Hows it sad, what do you expect them to do.

I expect them to do what they are doing. It's sad that people can't be given the facts and allowed to decide based on evidence, rather than the NO campaign's attempts at media terrorism.

They may as well go the whole hog and tell us the Alternative Voting system causes cancer and will burgle our homes at night time.
 
Cosmos Rocks said:
Problem I have mate is that the tories / labour party could havethe vast majority of seats yet a shit like Clegg can come along and hold the balance of power. Every 100 years I can live with but every election no.

You can still get an overall majority with AV, and every election under FPTP could leave to a hung parliament.

You need to look beyond Clegg and concentrate what you think is most fair. If that's FPTP then fine, but at least work out what you're voting for.
 
I expect them to do what they are doing. It's sad that people can't be given the facts and allowed to decide based on evidence, rather than the NO campaign's attempts at media terrorism.

They may as well go the whole hog and tell us the Alternative Voting system causes cancer and will burgle our homes at night time.

But think of the children.
 
Problem I have mate is that the tories / labour party could havethe vast majority of seats yet a shit like Clegg can come along and hold the balance of power. Every 100 years I can live with but every election no.

but does he really hold the balance of power? This is why he's getting shite over tuition fees. They're only minor partners in the coalition & have got their way on only a small handful of issues. The Tories are pulling the majority of the strings in this government.
 
You are wrong. I voted Yes twice on Lisbon, but it was wrong that we had to vote again. Debate the point at hand and stop inventing things. It does you no favours.

Invented sod all but the fact you admit the way you did vote still does you "no favours" given it was extracted so begrudgingly........................

That also does "you no favours"...................
 
I expect them to do what they are doing. It's sad that people can't be given the facts and allowed to decide based on evidence, rather than the NO campaign's attempts at media terrorism.

They may as well go the whole hog and tell us the Alternative Voting system causes cancer and will burgle our homes at night time.

Don't be going giving the Daily Mail ideas
 
way the papers are going against AV is disgusting. you would think hitler was going to be elected if we went for it
 
Its bollocks mate and the last paragraph isnt any of then anyway................. ;)

Whoever got the most seats at the last election got a mandate to form a government and I presume had it been with gormless gordon you wouldnt be spouting " bollicks" regarding a "lack of mandate"............

I agree the party with the most seats should have formed the government and I was dead against the idea of the liberals joining with Labour to form a government when the tories had more seats.

That said if the liberals had any principles they should have let the tories form a government and then when tuition fees came up they could have kicked up a fuss. But no an extra £50k wage packet, the chance of a big pay day from a book and a waste of time title and clegg becomes Camerons poodle.

Like I said I mite hate the tories but they have more of my respect than the liberals who havent got a single principle.
 
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way the papers are going against AV is disgusting. you would think hitler was going to be elected if we went for it

Tory owned biased media isn't it.

And some people want to abolish the BBC?
 
the streaker said:
Invented sod all but the fact you admit the way you did vote still does you "no favours" given it was extracted so begrudgingly........................

That does "you no favours"...................

Disagree with my Yes vote by all means, but don't invent stuff. You're a grown man FFS.

Yes on Lisbon has, without question, proven to be the right move from Ireland. However, the No vote should have been heeded, even if it was brought about by powerful bellends duping pissypanted idiots.
 
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