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Guitar Man

Central Defender
If ya were any good yad still be at ya 1st firm...
You mis-understood my meaning ,
What i meant was someone who is in the trade who has worked with other firms ( i should have put trades) and you can see there work as you work along side them ,and you keep a note of the good one's and one's to avoid ,you obviously thought i meant someone who has skipped job to job and not stopped at a firm long .

crossed wires on both our parts.
 


beverly macca

Midfield
He’s the big cheese up here and rightly so.He reckons I’m the best about and he always keeps a lean eye on my jo s but I think he’s just being too kind .


Wait till he sees what my next job is.I’ll pm you details when it kicks off as you’ll think I’m exaggerating.

Last two words mate tell it all


Tell tale sign is if lads are on the jobs with hoods up,sniff/blow culture.
I’ve done work for him and his family. He pays for quality.
You mis-understood my meaning ,
What i meant was someone who is in the trade who has worked with other firms ( i should have put trades) and you can see there work as you work along side them ,and you keep a note of the good one's and one's to avoid ,you obviously thought i meant someone who has skipped job to job and not stopped at a firm long .

crossed wires on both our parts.
I got asked to help a roofer out once, a friend of our lass (ex). I walked after day one. Deplorable work and cheapest of materials. He didn’t believe in air flow. :lol:
 
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Lumber

Central Defender
Mmm, not sure of the reason for the laughing faces. The Labc guy who nominated us was a top notch professional. It was on a half a billion pound site, a 500,000,000 pound contract. So come on ... what's your beef with Labc?
They have passed persimmon homes pre-plaster/cml's for years.... they give awards because they are receiving funds for there insurance. I know a rough bricky who bought a grinder to cut off restraining straps "because they got in his way" labc didn't even notice. They are nowt but a farce, same as nhbc. The builders are there client, awards are simply to keep there clients happy.
 
They have passed persimmon homes pre-plaster/cml's for years.... they give awards because they are receiving funds for there insurance. I know a rough bricky who bought a grinder to cut off restraining straps "because they got in his way" labc didn't even notice. They are nowt but a farce, same as nhbc. The builders are there client, awards are simply to keep there clients happy.
I'd certainly agree about the NHBC my experience with them left me appalled at their stupidity and the generally little jumped up idiots. Just dreadful and I remember the wages they were paid and the work load and even if they were half decent they were set up to fail. Wouldn't use their guarantees to wipe my fundament.
But speak as you find, the guy who I referred to , the Labc Chief Inspector, was quality. And similarly the rough equivalent in London , District Surveyors were very impressive professionals. You'll get idiots, the incompetent and the corrupted in every aspect of construction but I 'd suggest your specific experience is not necessarily over arching.
And you speak as you find, and I'll speak as I found.
And I was an old fashioned Clerk of Works who ended up with all sorts of stupid titles, because i'd been there and done it, so if you have watching restraining straps being spun off did you just keep schtum?
 

Lumber

Central Defender
I'd certainly agree about the NHBC my experience with them left me appalled at their stupidity and the generally little jumped up idiots. Just dreadful and I remember the wages they were paid and the work load and even if they were half decent they were set up to fail. Wouldn't use their guarantees to wipe my fundament.
But speak as you find, the guy who I referred to , the Labc Chief Inspector, was quality. And similarly the rough equivalent in London , District Surveyors were very impressive professionals. You'll get idiots, the incompetent and the corrupted in every aspect of construction but I 'd suggest your specific experience is not necessarily over arching.
And you speak as you find, and I'll speak as I found.
And I was an old fashioned Clerk of Works who ended up with all sorts of stupid titles, because i'd been there and done it, so if you have watching restraining straps being spun off did you just keep schtum?
I wasn't on the site, he told me he done it mate.
In my experience they are all jumped up idiots, both nhbc and labc, I wouldn't use awards from either to wipe my fundament.
 

gasman

Central Defender
Mate all these types have in common are ;

Ltd

No trade background

Loads of adverts ,tables at sportsman’s do’s

Say yes all the time to punters

Employ salesman


Sign up to checked and vetted /rate my people .


Drug use on a Friday in the office/pub etc .(not this company though )
Have your vans marked up as ‘as seen on diy sos’..
 
I wasn't on the site, he told me he done it mate.
In my experience they are all jumped up idiots, both nhbc and labc, I wouldn't use awards from either to wipe my fundament.
Well you have got me thinking tbh.
The half a billion site I was on was too big to fail if you get my drift. It won a huge range of awards, some of which I suspected were directly sponsored by the client, probably the largest developer in the Uk at the time.
Probably not the place to go into a long spiel and I was a good and honest technician. I've seen Grenfell and I can trace the cause of that back to people like myself and labc inspectors not being heard or respected. I wish I could sit down and have a long conversation with you because when I entered the professional side we had the National Building Agency, Building Performance Services, BS's that were meaningful and Codes of Practices that were so informative. And above all the Building Regs.
Most of that if not all swept away by Heseltine, Tory Environment Minister under Thatcher and years later we had Savid Javid boasting thet he was going to make a bonfire of the remaining Regulations.
And then Grenfell.
And I was always site based and just two reflections. I looked at being an NBHC inspector once. It was like a pitiful modern day equivalent of a 30,000 a year job. I'd be covering the whole of the SE of England, From Kent and South London all the way down to Dorset. Impossible to contemplate. And I'd have to provide my own car. What?
I had enough to be a Labc inspector but the workload went from manageable to madness. Again imho Tories just as social workers, the teaching profession, the police, probation officers etc were screwed.
So I just ploughed on. Did alright for myself
Anyway you go well.
But I'm really glad I'm out of it tbh
 

Lumber

Central Defender
Well you have got me thinking tbh.
The half a billion site I was on was too big to fail if you get my drift. It won a huge range of awards, some of which I suspected were directly sponsored by the client, probably the largest developer in the Uk at the time.
Probably not the place to go into a long spiel and I was a good and honest technician. I've seen Grenfell and I can trace the cause of that back to people like myself and labc inspectors not being heard or respected. I wish I could sit down and have a long conversation with you because when I entered the professional side we had the National Building Agency, Building Performance Services, BS's that were meaningful and Codes of Practices that were so informative. And above all the Building Regs.
Most of that if not all swept away by Heseltine, Tory Environment Minister under Thatcher and years later we had Savid Javid boasting thet he was going to make a bonfire of the remaining Regulations.
And then Grenfell.
And I was always site based and just two reflections. I looked at being an NBHC inspector once. It was like a pitiful modern day equivalent of a 30,000 a year job. I'd be covering the whole of the SE of England, From Kent and South London all the way down to Dorset. Impossible to contemplate. And I'd have to provide my own car. What?
I had enough to be a Labc inspector but the workload went from manageable to madness. Again imho Tories just as social workers, the teaching profession, the police, probation officers etc were screwed.
So I just ploughed on. Did alright for myself
Anyway you go well.
But I'm really glad I'm out of it tbh
The sites I'm on are nhbc, they concentrate on stupid things that look pretty, like tape on boxing saying to double board it, and labels on pipework saying hot and cold (hidden once boarded so pointless in reality) and them and the management walk about patting each other on the back saying great ideas, then win awards off the back of it. Never see them actually check anything but for clean cavities...
It's all bollocks mate 😂👍
 

Tuono

Midfield
How much do these scoundrels owe people ? Must be in the hundreds of thousands for those sentences. Taking a big risk of some close relative of a nutcase being in those affected.
A bloke I did work for got jailed recently for fraud. He got 4 months for pocketing something like £40-50,000.
Him and his mate set up the company and were employing subbies and raking in the money, then they started pricing their own work and things went down hill. The job I did for them was a loft conversion, big dormer window out the back which was clad in cheap looking white plastic, it looked shit. Later on I found the dormer should have been tile hung to match all the other houses in the street so all the plastic had to be changed. Matey went back to the house owner and demanded £10,000 extra for the work, she paid it but he pocketed it and told his partner she wouldn't pay so they would just have to write it off. He was in charge of wages and was paying himself double what he was paying his partner. They eventually broke up the company and went their own ways. Matey then started pricing up jobs, taking the deposit and sometimes not even starting them. Most of the money went up his nose.
3 months ago I did some work in the house he used to rent, we found bags of pills hidden in the outhouse and under the floorboards. The labourers got rid of them!
The blokes out now doing work again. 💩
 

safcsafc

Midfield
Started a thread a while ago about this company and how they ripped my parents off. Lie after lie. He blamed a Facebook smear campaign against them as the reason he couldn’t get workers out to start and another time said the fitter had been pulled off the Tyne bridge the night before. Began to find out how many others they did it to, there’s a video posted by one of his employees when they’ve realised it’s a scam and they take a customer in to confront adam, he’s just smirking about it.
I went over the office to see him and he hid in the back, left me walking around knocking on doors upstairs before sending some youngen out to see me. said he won’t come out neither would she.
Spoke to his kitchen supplier who said they stopped sending anything out as he owed them tens of thousands.
When it came out a couple of similar (name) home improvement companies started offering to put things right, help victims out etc. a quick Facebook search and you could see the ex employees/directors etc all linked together running similar.
Glad he got 5.5 years and hopefully she gets similar as in our case she lied just as much. But worse than a custodial sentence he has two young kids that he’s now going to miss a couple years of growing up, not sure why anyone would risk that tbh.
 
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Goat Eyes

Striker
Started a thread a while ago about this company and how they ripped my parents off. Lie after lie. He blamed a Facebook smear campaign against them as the reason he couldn’t get workers out to start and another time said the fitter had been pulled off the Tyne bridge the night before. Began to find out how many others they did it to, there’s a video posted by one of his employees when they’ve realised it’s a scam and they take a customer in to confront adam, he’s just smirking about it.
I went over the office to see him and he hid in the back, left me walking around knocking on doors upstairs before sending some youngen out to see me. said he won’t come out neither would she.
Spoke to his kitchen supplier who said they stopped sending anything out as he owed them tens of thousands.
When it came out a couple of similar (name) home improvement companies started offering to put things right, help victims out etc. a quick Facebook search and you could see the ex employees/directors etc all linked together running similar.
Glad he got 5.5 years and hopefully she gets similar as in our case she lied just as much. But worse than a custodial sentence he has two young kids that he’s now going to miss a couple years of growing up, not sure why anyone would risk that tbh.
Greed. Pure greed.
 

brir

Striker
Had a local company around recently to fit a patio, did a great job.

Told me he regularly gets calls from people asking him to come around to fix bodge jobs. And, also money paid up front never to be seen again. Said he's had people in tears
 

EDGE

Striker
Had a local company around recently to fit a patio, did a great job.

Told me he regularly gets calls from people asking him to come around to fix bodge jobs. And, also money paid up front never to be seen again. Said he's had people in tears
Had to do the same recently. Original job was appalling.
 

brir

Striker
Had to do the same recently. Original job was appalling.

Fella we had in said it was as very difficult to find people with necessary skills nowadays. One of his lads had been with him 10 years which tells its own story

Also told to be wary of "firms" that can start straight away.
 

EDGE

Striker
Fella we had in said it was as very difficult to find people with necessary skills nowadays. One of his lads had been with him 10 years which tells its own story

Also told to be wary of "firms" that can start straight away.
Definitely the issue. Lack of workers. Was lucky that I was able to get someone who knew what they were doing. Cost me another £300 like.
 

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