Are we losing parenting skills?


I'm not doubting that and I have and still do the same but it doesn't take away from the point that if a 7yo can't read to any standard there are obviously some underlying issues involved and id teachers can't get kids reading parents have zero chance I'd doing it either
I think the "underlying issues" may be remnants of the lack of early input . Kids learn not only letters but how to think in different ways. We're a species that teaches its young by narrative and they learn schema such as " story" , real, pretend , they also learn that those funny little marks are symbols of meaning that represent stimulus and connected emotion . Much of that is done over books and it becomes part of the childs lexicon of communication , they light up the neural pathways hearing it pre speech . Give them none of that until theyre five and any teacher will have difficulty 'turning the lights on " .
Early years are so important, me 11 month old grandson loves his books and gets them out himself to look through. My granddaughter could read harry potter at 6
 
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A teacher was telling me a while back that given parents shove their kids on tablets the whole time to keep them occupied, they have terrible communication and social interaction skills and dont know how to hold a pencil. The other problem was that parents would never take accountability for their children's behaviour and never accept criticism.
I’m seeing it translated into adult life.

People don’t want to have a telephone conversation to sort stuff out and hide behind a thousand emails or texts.
 
I think the "underlying issues" may be remnants of the lack of early input . Kids learn not only letters but how to think in different ways. We're a species that teaches its young by narrative and they learn schema such as " story" , real, pretend , they also learn that those funny little marks are symbols of meaning that represent stimulus and connected emotion . Much of that is done over books and it becomes part of the childs lexicon of communication , they light up the neural pathways hearing it pre speech . Give them none of that until theyre five and any teacher will have difficulty 'turning the lights on " .
Early years are so important, me 11 month old grandson loves his books and gets them out himself to look through. My granddaughter could read harry potter at 6
I always understood the early years to be the most crucial and that if you fell behind early on then the chances of catching up were all the more harder.
 
I always understood the early years to be the most crucial and that if you fell behind early on then the chances of catching up were all the more harder.
Vital mate pure organic brain development , what connects to what and how quick , it doesnt do its self . Lev Zygotski talked about a " zone of proximal learning " in kids, some things we can figure out, some are outside the zone and need interpretation. Reading is one
 
The only good thing about that statement is that at least teachers do that nowadays.

Nothing has changed since the 80s then, except maybe it's just the run down streets and not all of them now.

Yep. Things are significantly better today then there were in the 80s and the early 90s.

Just look at the sad events which took place during the tragic murder of James Bulger. A scary number of people saw James and did nothing as it wasn’t uncommon at the time to see older siblings watching toddlers
 
Yep. Things are significantly better today then there were in the 80s and the early 90s.

Just look at the sad events which took place during the tragic murder of James Bulger. A scary number of people saw James and did nothing as it wasn’t uncommon at the time to see older siblings watching toddlers
Little lasses would knock on the door and ask to take the baby out in the pram years ago
 
I think the "underlying issues" may be remnants of the lack of early input . Kids learn not only letters but how to think in different ways. We're a species that teaches its young by narrative and they learn schema such as " story" , real, pretend , they also learn that those funny little marks are symbols of meaning that represent stimulus and connected emotion . Much of that is done over books and it becomes part of the childs lexicon of communication , they light up the neural pathways hearing it pre speech . Give them none of that until theyre five and any teacher will have difficulty 'turning the lights on " .
Early years are so important, me 11 month old grandson loves his books and gets them out himself to look through. My granddaughter could read harry potter at 6

Nice to get a few not subtle brags in there marra. Children will learn when they are ready to learn. Push them to young and to fast and good chance you could turn them off. It's all about balance. As much as parents do need to reinforce school work there also needs to be a separation between school and home. I read about five times a week with my youngun and do a page of maths and English with him that get sent home from school to do. That's enough for him imo. I'm sure other kids do more at a home but if the school are happy with what we do at home then I'm happy. I don't want my youngun coming home from school only to start schooling him at home again. Nowt worse than parent bragging about wha there kids can do and that
 
I’ll be a Granda before the years out and the daughter and our lass are going to have to both go part time to work around the bairn.Both need a job but either one of them first priority is that bairn.
That’s the way it should work in my opinion.

I think most working parents' priority is their kids like

And yeah, I think everyone knows your opinions on family life by now mate :D
 
Talking about lowering of standards. Is it a coincidence that the Tories have been in power for about 12 years, and systematically cancelled almost every funded scheme there was to help new parents.

Reaping what we sow?
 
I started school at age 4 and every kid in the class could use the toilet. I don't think teachers should be burdened by this increasing problem.
Basically kids having kids now & probably the parents not allowed to vote
 
Nice to get a few not subtle brags in there marra. Children will learn when they are ready to learn. Push them to young and to fast and good chance you could turn them off. It's all about balance. As much as parents do need to reinforce school work there also needs to be a separation between school and home. I read about five times a week with my youngun and do a page of maths and English with him that get sent home from school to do. That's enough for him imo. I'm sure other kids do more at a home but if the school are happy with what we do at home then I'm happy. I don't want my youngun coming home from school only to start schooling him at home again. Nowt worse than parent bragging about wha there kids can do and that
Well i dont deny i have pride in my family and i think thats a good thing . My main reason for mention my own bairns was just to show potential milestones you are expecting teachers to recover . Bit weird to be triggered there Rob but we each have our circumstances .
 
Well i dont deny i have pride in my family and i think thats a good thing . My main reason for mention my own bairns was just to show potential milestones you are expecting teachers to recover . Bit weird to be triggered there Rob but we each have our circumstances .

Tbh I have my pride in my family no matter what abilities they may have. Just cos a child may not be about to do things at a certain age it doesn't always mean it's someone's fault. Kids will learn at there own pace.
 
Tbh I have my pride in my family no matter what abilities they may have. Just cos a child may not be about to do things at a certain age it doesn't always mean it's someone's fault. Kids will learn at there own pace.
But they learn faster with correct help and stimulus thats just a proven fact . Shall we agree that what level of input is 'correct' for each will vary
 
Nice to get a few not subtle brags in there marra. Children will learn when they are ready to learn. Push them to young and to fast and good chance you could turn them off. It's all about balance. As much as parents do need to reinforce school work there also needs to be a separation between school and home. I read about five times a week with my youngun and do a page of maths and English with him that get sent home from school to do. That's enough for him imo. I'm sure other kids do more at a home but if the school are happy with what we do at home then I'm happy. I don't want my youngun coming home from school only to start schooling him at home again. Nowt worse than parent bragging about wha there kids can do and that

Parents should still be teaching them early years stuff before they go to school. It's when their brains are more receptive to picking things up. Even something simple like a grocery shopping trip with a toddler in a trolley seat can be a "lesson". They're learning from you asking them to help find the next thing on your list or asking them to spot a letter A or find something blue or random things like that. It's builds a desire to learn when you're interacting and talking all the way round, rather than giving them a phone to watch drivel.

Saying things like "oh my child could do fractions before they went to school" while looking down your nose at others is bragging. Teaching them basic development skills isn't bragging.
 
Parents should still be teaching them early years stuff before they go to school. It's when their brains are more receptive to picking things up. Even something simple like a grocery shopping trip with a toddler in a trolley seat can be a "lesson". They're learning from you asking them to help find the next thing on your list or asking them to spot a letter A or find something blue or random things like that. It's builds a desire to learn when you're interacting and talking all the way round, rather than giving them a phone to watch drivel.

Saying things like "oh my child could do fractions before they went to school" while looking down your nose at others is bragging. Teaching them basic development skills isn't bragging.

I'm doubting any of that but it's all about balance and some kids are more receptive that others. If a child is struggling to read or write to a certain standard at sat 6yo then it just maybe because they are not naturally good at things like that rather then just saying it's the parents fault. Kids will learn when they are ready to learn. You can push them as much as you want but if they are not ready it won't sink in and you could end up turning them off it all and doing more damage than good
 

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